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hrdIp mwn Aqy jMfU ilqrWvwlw

lokW dy ipAwr qoN v`fw koeI AYvwrf nhIN (hrbMs isMG jMfU il`qrWvwlw)
mulwkwqI: hrdIp mwn

gIqkwrI bwry kuJ lokW dw kihxW hY ik ieh r`bI dwq huMdI hY qy kuJ kihMdy hn izMdgI dy kOVy qjribAW, smwjk burweIAW dy ivroD Aqy siBAwcwr dI sMBwl leI gIq dw jnm huMdw hY[ gIq ƒ jnm dyx vwlw "gIqkwr" kihlwauNdw hY, ijvyN b`cw jnm qW AOrq (mW) dI ku`K qoN lYNdw hY, pr v`fw ho ky bygwinAW dw bx jWdw hY, ausy qrHW dw kuJ gIqkwr nwl huMdw hY[ gIq dy ih`t hox qoN bwAd gwiek 'qy kMpnI pYsw Aqy Sohrq K`tdy hn, pr gIqkwr ƒ gIq ivc isr& iek AwpxW nwm dy ky sbr dw Gu`t Brnw pYNdw hY[ pr keI bwrI aus dw ieh h`k vI Koh ilAw jWdw hY[ BWvy A`jklH gIqkwrW ƒ aunHW dw bxdw imhnqwnw imlx l`g ipAw hY, pr auh isr& kuJ iek nwmvr gIqkwrW ƒ hI imldw hY[ nvyN gIqkwrW dy A`j vI auhI hwlwq hn[

vDIAw gIqkwrI bhuq hI izMmyvwrI Aqy smJdwrI dw kwrj hY[ iqMn dhwikAW qoN jo ies izMmyvwrI ƒ bKUbI inBw irhw hY, aus gIqkwr dw nwm hY 'jMfU il`qrWvwlw' Er& hrbMs isMG jMfU[ "ig`iDAW dIey rwxIey" gIq Aqy AwpxI sw& suQrI klm nwl pMjwbI sroiqAW dy idlW ivc AwpxI pihcwn bxwaux vwly hrbMs jI bhuq hI imlxswr, isAwxy Aqy sulJy hoey ienswn hn[ pyS hY 5AwbI.kOm dy pwTkW leI 'hrbMs isMG jMfU il`qrWvwlw' nwl hoeI Ku`lHI mulwkwq:-

? sB qoN pihlW SurUAwqI svwl Awpxy ipCOkV Aqy pVHweI bwry d`soN?

myrw ipMf il`qrW hY Aqy izlW jlMDr dI nkodr qihsIl 'c AwauNdw hY[ mYN mu`FlI iv`idAw Awpxy ipMf Aqy mYitRk nwl dy ipMf SMkr dy Kwlsw skUl ivc kIqI[

? hrbMs jI, hux Awpxy pirvwr bwry kuJ cwnxW pwE?

mYN 1967 'c ieMglYNf AwieAw[ b`cy Awpxy pMj muMfy Aqy iek gu`fI hY[ swry AwpoN Awpxy kMmW ivc l`gy hoey hn[ bhuq cMgw smW inkl irhw hY[ myry b`icAW dy vI A`gy b`cy hn[

? qusIN gIqkwrI dy Kyqr ivc ikvyN Awey?

drAsl myry v`fy Brw 'drSn isMG drSn' huxIN kwPI dyr qoN kivqw ilKdy huMdy sn[ hux vI ilKdy hn[ aunHW dw izAwdwqr ruJwn Dwrimk jW hwsrs v`l sI [ jdoN Gr ivc iek bMdw ieHdw dw kMm krdw hovy qW kudrqI g`l hY ik iksy hor ƒ vI SOk ho hI jWdw[ myry mn ivc vI bhuq huMdw sI ik mYN vI ilKw[ drAsl mYN CotI aumr ivc hI styjW 'qy Dwrimk kivqw pVHn lg ipAw sI[ iPr jdoN ieMglYNf ivc Awey qW ie`Qy 1968 'c iek gIqW dw mukwblw dys pRdys vloN krvwieAw igAw[ aus ivc 52 gIqkwrW ny ih`sw ilAw[ aunHW bvMjw ivcoN myrw dUjw nMbr AwieAw[ ies krky audoN XwrW-dosqW ny vI, kuJ lyKkW ny vI Aqy ^wsqOr qy myry Brw ny ikhw ik kivqw qW qU ieMnI vDIAw nhIN ilK skdw, qU gIq iliKAw kr[ mYN audoN qoN gIq ilKdw hW, pr kivqw vI C`fI nhIN, nwl nwl ilKI jweIdI hY[

? auh ikhVw gIq sI ijs ny quhwƒ bvMjw gIqkwrW ivcoN dUjy nMbr qy ilAwdW?

"jy muMifAW qU mYƒ n`cdI dyKxW qW sUt svw dy iPt muMifAW, myrI n`cdI dI &oto iK`c muMifAW ...["

? qusIN gIq qoN ielwvw hor kI ilKdy ho?

sB qoN pihlW mYN kivqw hI ilKxI SurU kIqI[ iPr Dwrimk kivqwvW vI ilKIAW[ hor mYƒ styjW qy bolx dw SOk hux vI hY[ hr styj qy mYN boldw hW[ cwhy koeI styj kOmI hovy, SoSl hovy, hwsrs hovy jW Dwrimk hovy[ mYN hr twiep dI kivqw, ijsƒ siBAwcwrk khwaux dw h`k hovy, auh ilKdw hW qy qkrIbn hr h&qy ikqy nw ikqy zrUr boldw hW[ lokW dw bVw ipAwr hY[ SyAr vI kdy kdy ilK leIdy hn[

? ilKq klw qoN ielwvw hor ikhVy SOk hn?

gIqkwrI dw SOk hI pUrw ho jwvy qW QoVw[ iehdy vloN hI ivhl nhIN imldw qW hor kI krnw[ drAsl iehIN myrw sB qoN v`fw SOk hY[

? quhwfw ieh SOk hux ik`qw bx cu`kw hY jW hor vI koeI kMm krdy ho?

mYN qkrIbn qIh swl kMm kIqw, audoN vI gIq ilKdw huMdw sI[ hux mYN iblkul kMm nhIN krdw qy hux vI ilKdw hW[ ies ivc koeI S`k nhIN ik pihlW gIqkwrW ƒ isMgr lok jW kMpnIAW kuJ nhIN sI idMdIAW[ pr hux gIqkwrW ƒ imhnqwnW dyx dw QoVw-QoVw irvwz ijhw c`l ipAw hY[ pr aus nwl guzwrw qW nhIN c`l skdw, pr gIq ilKx leI jW hor kuJ krn ƒ cwlU r`Kx leI quhwƒ QoVw ijhw Awsrw zrUr hY[

? qusIN iks gIqkwr qoN pRBwivq ho Aqy ikMnHW gIqkwrW ƒ psMd krdy ho?

vYsy mYN hr gIqkwr dI qyy hr lyKk dI kdr krdw hW, pr pqw nhIN ikauN? ieh r`b jwxdw, myry idl ivc 'dyv QrIikAW vwlw' bYTw irhw mu`F qoN[ 'hrdyv dlgIr' ijnHW ny mwxk swihb leI gIq iliKAw sI ik 'swihbW bxI BrwvW dI ...[' mYN aunHW dI gIqkwrI bolI ƒ bhuq lweIk kIqw[ bhuq izAwdw[ jy s`c pu`iCAw jwvy qW mYN isrP aus qoN pRBwivq hW[

hor swry hI gIqkwr cMgy hn[ mYN iksy ƒ mwVw nhIN kihdw[ A`jklH 'smSyr sMDU' bVw vDIAw ilK irhw hY[ 'jsbIr guxwcwrIAw' nMbr bn, 'divMdr KMnyvwlw' Aqy 'bwbU isMG mwn' hn[ nUrpUrI swihb bhuq vDIAw gIqkwr hoey hn[ ieMglYNf ivc vI bhuq A`Cy A`Cy gIqkwr bYTy AW[ pr myrw mn dyv QrIikAW vwly dI klm ƒ nmskwr krdw hY[

? qusIN gIqkwrI iv`idAw vI iksy kolo leI?

ieh suAwl myry koloN bhuq vwrI pu`iCAw igAw[ drAsl mYN s`cI g`l d`sW, myrw koeI ausqwd nhIN[ (h`sdy hoey) hux qW ies qrHW kih lvo "Awpy hI Swigrd hW qy Awpy hI ausqwd["

? hrbMs jI, qusIN gIq ikauN ilKdy ho?

mYN koiSS kr irhw hW ik iek gIq Aijhw ilKW, ijsdI A`CweI dyK, lok ausƒ sdw Xwd r`Kx[ cwhy auh gIq smwjk hovy jW lok gIq, pr aus ivc kiSS ieMnI hovy, s`cweI ieMnI hovy ik lok ausƒ kihx ik ieh swfw gIq hY[ ies cIz ƒ mu`K r`K ky ilKIdw hY[ ho skdw koeI gIq myrw ieMnw kwmXwb hoieAw hovy jW ho irhw hovy jW hovygW, ieh lok jwxdy hn[

? gIq rcnw leI quhwƒ iks qrHW dw mwhOl cwhIdw hY?

jdoN ie`klqw ijhI hovy, k`ly hoeIey[ bwhr hoeIey jW Gr hoeIey, koeI ^ws &rk nhIN[ pr mn ƒ iek pwsy lwaux leI ie`klqw dI bhuq zrUrq huMdI hY[ jdoN mn ƒ ^uS krnw hovy qW gIq ilKx bih jweIdw[ QoVw QoVw krky mYN kdy nhIN gIq iliKAw[ pUrw krky klm r`KIdI AW jW gIq dw plwt bxW ky[

? quhwfy gIqW dI koeI ikqwb vI CpI hY?

nhIN, mYN myry gIqW dI koeI ikqwb nhIN CpvweI[ ies g`loN mYN bhuq ip`Cy irhw[ ieh myry ivc Gwt hI rhI hY[ pr hux koiSS hY ik cwr-pMj mihinAW q`k iek A`DI ikqwb zrUr bwhr Awvy[

? quhwfy pihly gIq ƒ iks ny Awvwz id`qI?

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iCMdw Aqy jMfU

myrw pihlW gIq gurdyv b`lI, pMjwb dI bhuq mShUr gwiekw Aqy aunHW dy nwl krnYl cImw ny gwieAw[ gIq dy bol sn "pUrI pUrI nI ktweI, qyry bVI iPt AweI, muitAwr BwbIey[" aus qoN bwAd qW c`l so c`l keI hzwrW dy ihswb nwl gIq ilKy qy hux qW kdy igx vI nhIN hoey nw hI igx huMdy hn[ bhuqy AwritstW ny smiJAw ik koeI cMgw gIq gwauxW qW jMfU il`qrWvwly kol cldy hW[ vYsy kudrq vloN mYƒ vI ijMny vI Awritst imly, auh cMgw gIq gwauxW cwhuMdy sn[ myry swry hI gIq, mYN qW hfrf pRsYnt iehI khUgW ik mYN BMgVy dw gIq jW Dwrimk jW hor vI iksy ivSy qy ilKy, auh swry hI PYmlI ivc bYT ky suxy jw skdy hn qy AgWh vI r`b iesy qrHW dy ilKweI jwvy qW cMgI g`l AW[

? quhwfy gIq ikhVy ikhVy gwiekW ny irkwrf krvwey?

ijMny bwhr gwiek hn, auh qW swry hI gw cu`ky hn[ imswl dy qOr qy ey AY~s kMg, blivMdr sPrI, jYzI bI, iBMdw j`t, donoN pRdysI gru`p, dysI buAweyz, fI sI AY~s, AwpxW sMgIq, mqlb qusIN iksy vI gru`p dw nW lE qW AwpW hYNgy Aw ivc[ drAsl hux ieMny gwiek qy gru`p myry gIq gw cu`ky, Xwd nhIN rihMdw[ pMjwb ivc vI keI gwiek myry gIq gw cu`ky hn[

? gweIkW ƒ gIq qusIN Awp dyx jWdy ho jW auh lYx AwauNdy hn?

nhIN, auh Awp hI AwauNdy hn[ mYN nhIN kdy igAw[ bhuqw SOk vI nhIN hY ik iksy ƒ gIq jw ky dyeIey[ drAsl gIq lYx vwly ^ud hI Aw jWdy hn[

? kI qusIN vI kuJ nvyN gwiekW ƒ sQwipq kIqw?

hux cwr-pMj muMfy kIqy hn[ mYƒ nwm Bu`l gey, AMgRzI ijhy sn[ auh gIq AMgRzI ivc ilK ky lY jWdy hn qy iPr gw idMdy hn[ (h`sdy hoey) bolI krky QoVoN iksy kMm qoN ip`Cy rihxW, pr bhuq vDIAw gwauNdy hn[

? qusIN izAwdw solo gIq ilKy jW dogwxy?

mYN dogwxy vI bhuq ilKy[ irkwrf vI bhuq krvwey[ solo qW mYN ilKdw hI rihMdw hW qkrIbn[ kdy iksy dy koeI gIq psMd AwauNdw qW lY jWdw hY, jy nhIN AwauNdw qW C`f vI jWdw[ Agly ƒ gIq psMd krvwky dyeIdw, ieh g`l nhIN ik ausqy gIq Tos hI idau ik gIq gvwauxW hI zrUr hY[ izAwdwqr gIqW dI kopojISn vI mYN hI iqAwr kr ky idMdw hW[ vzn, bih, qol hr pwsy pUrw kMmplIt hI huMdw[ ausƒ bhuqw k`txW-v`FxW nhIN pYNdw[ jy QOVI Adl-bdl krnI pY jwvy qW gwiek myry nwl &on qy sMprk kr lYNdy hn[

? qusIN 'jMfU il`qrWvwlw' dy nwm hyT izAwdw gIq ilKy?

hW, mYN 'hrbMs isMG' nwm hyT qW ieMny gIq nhIN ilKy, pr izAwdw mYN 'jMfU il`qrWvwlw' nwm hyT mShUr hW[ 'hrbMs isMG' myrw AslI nwm hY, 'jMfU' myrw goq hY Aqy 'il`qrW' myrw ipMf[ mYN Awpxy nwm ƒ ip`Cy r`K ky jMfU il`qrWvwly nwm Q`ly izAwdw gIq ilKy[ pr hux pMj-Cy muMfy hor vI hn, ijhVy 'il`qrW' ilKx l`g pey hn, myry krky[ auh 'il`qrW' ilK vI skdy AW, pr hr bMdy dw AwpxW AwpxW sQwn huMdw hY[ ieh lokW qy inrBr krdw hY ik lok aus ƒ iks qrHW sivkwr krdy hn[

? quhwƒ pirvwr vloN ikho ijhw sihXog imilAw?

bhuq vDIAw[ myry b`cy Aqy imsizj bhuq lweIk krdy hn, ikauNik mYN ilKdw hI auh cIz hW, ijsƒ hr b`cw-b`cI lwiek krn[ mYƒ PYmlI vloN qy XwrW-dosqW vloN bhuq vDIAw sihXog imilAw[

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sPrI Aqy mwxk nwl

? qusIN lok gIq dI kI pirBwSW idaugy?

myry i^Awl ivc bMdw swrI aumr ilKI jwvy, gweI jwvy qW auh l`kI hY jy auhdw iek gIq vI lok gIq bx jwvy[ lok gIq auh hY ijs ivc pUrI qihbIz hovy, aus ivSy bwry ijs bwry gIq iliKAw igAw[ lok aus gIq ƒ mwx nwl gwaux[ lok ieh kihx ieh lyKk dw jW gwiek dw gIq nhIN, ieh swfw gIq hY[ ijhVw gIq kdy Aim`t nhIN huMdw[ aus gIq ƒ lok sdw hI gwauxgy, jo A`j vI, ip`Cy vI qy Biv`K ivc gwieAw jwvygw[ lok gIq dI koeI aumr nhIN[

? jo A`jklH doArQI gIqkwrI c`l rhI hY …?

(ivcoN hI k`t ky) mYN nhIN[ nw hI mYN A`j q`k koeI Aijhw gIq iliKAw hY Aqy nw hI ilKxW hY[ nw hI mYƒ auh gIq cMgy l`gdy hY[ ieho ijhy gIq siBAwcwr ƒ Korw lwauNdy hn[ mYN qW ieh vI khwgW ik auh lyKk ƒ vI nIvW ijhw r`Kdy hn[ mYN doArQI gIqkwrI dy totlI briKlw& hW[ mYN nhIN cwhuMdw koeI Aijhw gIq ilKy, jy koeI ilKx dI ZlqI vI kr idMdw hY qW gwiek ƒ gwauxW nhIN cwhIdw[

? l`crqw qoN qusIN kI smJdy ho?

bkvws sudw hI, aus ƒ koeI gIqkwrI jW gIq nhIN ikhw jw skdw[ auh qW l`crgIq ilK id`qw jW gwl k`F leI, iek brwbr hY[ pMjwb dw siBAwcwr ieMnw au~cw hY ik ies ivc ieho ijhy l&z ilAwauxy Zlq g`l hY[ AsI ijsƒ gurUAW dI bolI kihMdy hW, aus ivc jdoN AsIN l`cr Sbd vrqdy hW qW swƒ ^ud ƒ Srm AwauxI cwhIdI hY[

? qusIN ieMny lMby icrW qoN pMjwbI bolI Aqy pMjwbI siBAwcwr dI syvw krdy Aw rhy ho[ kI pMjwbIAW ny aus dw quhwƒ Pl id`qw mqlb mwn-snmwn?

bhuq izAwdw, qkrIbn ijMny iksy gIqkwr ƒ imlxy cwhIdy hn, aus qoN vwDU imly hn[ mwn-snmwn qW Ajy rWqI lY ky Awey hW[ pMj swl lgwqwr 'swl dw bYst gIqkwr' AYvwrf imilAw[ swry gurUduAwirAW vloN snmwn p`qr imly[ jy s`c pu`Co, ieMny ienwm hn ik mYN quhwƒ d`s hI nhIN skdw[ (AYvwrfW vl dyKdy hoey) mYN quhwƒ pVH pVH ky d`s skdw hW[ ieMfIAn hweI kmISn vloN AYvwrf imly[ ieQoN dI siBAwcwrk suswietI vloN bhuq v`fw k`p imilAw[ ie`Qy ijMny gwaux vwly hn jW BMgVw gru`p vwly hn, aunHW ny bhuq ipAwr id`qw[ kwvYNtrI dI ie`Qy bhuq v`fI 'pMjwbI klcr kl`b' suswietI hY aunHW ny bhuq v`fw snmwn id`qw[ ieMglYNf dw koeI AYsw Sihr nhIN ij`Qy pMjwbI hox qy mYƒ nhIN, mqlb myrI ilKq ƒ snmwnq nhIN kIqw hovy[

pr sB qoN izAwdw mwn-snmwn lokW vloN hI hY ik ijhVy swƒ sivkwrdy hn[ jy lokW dw ieMnw ipAwr nw huMdw qW AsIN kd dy ^qm hoey huMdy[ swfy nwl keI au~Ty qy keI cu`p ho gey[ lok sMgIqkwr ƒ, gwiek ƒ jW gIqkwr ƒ ijMnw icr ipAwr idMdy hn, auh aunw icr huMdw hY, iPr auh ^qm ho jWdw hY[

? ieMglYNf qoN bwhr vI quhwƒ snmwnq kIqw igAw?

ieMglYNf qoN bwhr mYN isr& iekoN mulk ^ws qOr qy kYnyfw hI igAw[ au~Qy bhuq v`fy v`fy ilKwrIAW dI iek swihq sBw hY 'klmW dw kwPlw[' aunHW ny bhuq ie`zq mwn id`qw[ ijvyN auh lokW dw snmwn krdy hn, auvyN aunHW ny myrw kIqw[

? quhwfI is&lqw dw ishrw iks dy isr jWdw hY?

mYN qW iehI khwgW ik ijhVy lok sihXog dy rhy hn, aunHW dy isr[ pr iek g`l zrUr hY, AwpW pRmwqmw ƒ mMnx vwly lok hW ies krky ijhVI aupr SkqI hY, qkdIr hY, aus qy vI blIv krdw hW[ aus gYbI SkqI dy nwl lokW ƒ Aqy lokW dy nwl nwl aus SkqI ƒ, donW ƒ qrzIh idMdw hW[ ho skdw lokW dy mnW ivc imhr hI aunHW ny pweI hovy[ myry vrgy hor bQyry klwkwr lok hn, pr mYN smJdw hW ik jo snmwn mYƒ imilAw hY, auh bhuq G`t lokW ƒ imilAw hY[

? koeI Aijhw AYvwrf ijs dy qusIN h`kdwr hovo quhwƒ Ajy q`k nw imilAw hovy?

c`lo, jy pRmwqmw vwDw kry qW hr klwkwr ƒ ies qoN vI v`D qoN v`D mwn-snmwn imly[ pr myrI klm dI ijQoN q`k aupj hY, auQoN q`k lokIN mYƒ sivkwr krI jw rhy hn qy auh isr-m`Qy hY[ ho skdw jy aunHW ƒ myrI ies qoN vI hor v`fI cMgI cIz l`gy qW auh ies qoN vI v`fw ienwm dyxgy[ pr lokW dw jo ipAwr hY ies qoN v`fw AYvwrf A`j q`k nw hoieAw nw hI hoxw[

? hrbMs jI, quhwfy leI gIqkwrI kI hY?

hux qW swrw kuJ ies ƒ hI smJIdw hY[ ^urwk, SOk, mn dw cYn, jy s`c pu`CoN qW Bu`K vI iehoN hI hY[ hux qW koeI Aijhw gIq ilK ho jwvy, jy dwqw imhr kry qW, jo ilKdy swr hI Amr ho jwvy[ ieh nhIN ik dUjy gIq G`t hn, pr iPr vI keI bwr mn qW bxdw hY Aijhw gIq ilKx ƒ, pr ilK nhIN huMdw[

? gIq iek sU^m klw hY, ies ƒ ilKx vyly ikhVIAW g`lW dw iDAwn r`Kdy ho?

pihlW siBAwcwr, dUsrw jo gIq mYN ilK irhw auh iksy ƒ pMc qW nhIN krdw, qIsrw gIq ivc ijhVI SYlI jW bolI vrq irhw, auh gIqwkwrI nwl iensw& hY[ ieh do-iqMn cIzW ƒ mu`K r`K ky gIq ƒ muMkml kIqw jWdw hY[ ho skdw keI vwr Gwt rih geI hovy, ikauNik ienswn ZlqIAW dw puqlw hY, pr koiSS krIdI hY ik Aijhw nw hovy[

? koeI Aijhw gIq jo irkwrf hox qoN bwAd qusIN soicAw hovy ik ieh gIq mYƒ nhIN ilKxW cwhIdw sI?

nhIN, Ajy q`k nhIN[ iblkul nhIN[

? koeI Aijhw gIq ijs qy quhwƒ P^r hovy ik ieh gIq mYN iliKAw?

hW jI, auh gIq hY "igiDAW dIey rwxIey, ig`DIAW ivc Aw[" ies gIq qy mYƒ bhuq prwaUf hY[ ey AY~s kMg ny ies gIq ƒ gwieAw sI[ myry iKAwl ivc ies gIq ny mYƒ qy kMg ƒ lokW swhmxy ilAWdw[ hux ies ivc ieh nhIN ikhw skdw ik kMg swihb huxW ny mYƒ jW mYN aunHW ƒ mShUr kIqw[ nhIN[ ies gIq ivc auh iqMny cIzW sn, jo lok psMd krdy hn[ Awvwz sB qoN pihloN, imaUizk qy ilKq[ aus smyN ieh gIq bhuq mShUr hoieAw qy soicAw jwvy qW A`j vI ausy qrHW cl irhw hY[ ieh iekoN iek gIq hY jo s`q-A`T vwrI irimks ho cu`kw hY[

? quhwƒ SurU SurU ivc iknW pRySwnIAW dw vI swhmxW krnw ipAw?

myry iKAwl ivc mYN kuJ mwVw iliKAw nhIN, ies krky pRySwnI hox dw suAwl hI nhIN[ pRySwnIAW qd huMdIAW hn jy klcr qo hyTW iliKAw jwvy jW pirvwr ivc suxdy suxdy typ bMd krnI pvy[

? A`jklH keI gIqkwr purwxy lok gIqW ƒ kwt-CWt ky nvyN gIq ilKI jw rhy hn[ ies bwry quhwfy kI ivcwr hn?

ies ƒ mYN gIqkwrI nhIN khwgW ikauNik ies ivc mn dI SWqI nhIN hY[ ieh qW bgYNr imhnq kIiqAW mShUr hox vwlI g`l hY[ jdoN qusIN iksy dI vDIAw cIz ƒ ^rwb krdy ho qW quhwfw mn hI kihx l`g pYNdw hY ik mYN ieh kr kI irhw hW[ pr lok krdy zrUr hn[

? gIq dw Purnw quhwfy mn ivc ikvyN Purdw hY?

ikqwbW pVHIidAW hn[ jdoN bMdw iek nwvl jW iek ikqwb pUrw pVHdw hY qW kuJ nvW is`Kdw jW nvIN g`l dw pqw qW l`gdw hY[ auh iPr gIq bx jWdw hY[ mYN izAwdwqr nwvl pVHdw hW[

? qusIN nwvl dw izkr kIqw hY qW ieh vI d`s idE ik quhwfy psMdIdy lyKk ikhVy hn?

bUtw isMG Swd, nwnk isMG, jsvMq isMG kMvl[ khwxI pVHn ivc qW mYƒ ieMnI idlcspI nhIN hY[ pr nwvl jy koeI nvyN vI iml jwx qW auh pVH leIdy hn[ bUtw isMG Swd huxW dy nwvl qW mYN do-do, iqMn-iqMn vwr vI pVHy hn[ iek qW aunHW dy nwvlW ivc mwlvy dI bolI huMdI hY[ dUjw mlvy dI bolI gIqkwrI dw QMm hY ikauNik ies ivc l&z bhuq sohxy sohxy huMdy hn[ bs, swƒ l&zW dI zrUrq huMdI hY[ gIq ƒ iks qrHW bxwauxW ieh gIqkwr dI AwpxI soc huMdI hY[ qury-iPrdy koeI gIq nhIN imldw, aus leI imhnq zrUr krnI pYNdI hY[

? qusIN gIqkwrI qoN ielwvw hor ikvyN pMjwbI bolI dI syvw kr rhy ho?

mYN ie`Qy swfy Sihr ivc Aqy hor keI pMjwbI sBw suswietIAW dw mYNbr hW[ ieMglYNf dIAW ijMnIAW vI pMjwbIAW dIAW ilKwrI sBwvW hn[ aunHW dI AsIN swl 'c iek-do bwrI v`fI mIitMg r`Kdy hW[ kdy iek vwrI swfy twaUn ivc mIitMg kr leI, kdy aunHW dy[ ies nwl swfy ijMny vI ilKwrI BYx-Brw hn Aqy hor sroiqAW ƒ ie`kTy hox dw mOkw imldw hY[ ies nwl AsIN smJdy hW ik cloN hor kuJ qW nhIN G`toN G`t pMjwbI bolI bwry g`lbwq qW kIqI jWdI hY[

? kuVIAW-muMifAW dy ivCoVy Aqy ipAwr dy iviSAW qy A`jklH bhuq gIq ilKy jw rhy hn[ qusIN izAwdwqr ikhVy iviSAW qy gIq ilKy?

mYN ienHW iviSAW qy bhuq G`t hI iliKAw[ myrw ivSw irhw pMjwb jW koeI swJW ivSW, ijs ivc eykqw dI g`l hovy, mqlb kuVI mMufy qoN v`Krw nhIN, muMfw kuVI qoN[ byS`k muMfy-kuVI dw ivSw hovy, pr C`fx-C`faux dy msilAW qoN AwpW dUr hI rhy hW[ (h`sdy hoey) mYN iek bwrI BgMvq mwn dI kYist sux irhw sI qy aunHW dy kihx vWgU jd q`k kuVI jhwzy cVHdI nhIN qd q`k gIq ilKxoN h`tdy hI nhIN[

? gIqkwr dw jdoN pihlW gIq irkwrf huMdw hY qW aus ƒ bhuq ^uSI huMdI hY[ kI quhwfy nwl vI ieMj hoieAw?

ieh quhwfI g`l bhuq vDIAw hY[ ieh s`c hY, ijhVI pihlI pRwpqI leI ^uSI huMdI hY[ myry i^Awl ivc auh swrI izMdgI nhIN huMdI[ myrw gIq 'igiDAW dI rwxIey' jdoN irkwrf hoieAw, AsIN aus idn bhuq ^uSI mnweI[ ieh gIq ieMtrnYSnl p`Dr qy AwieAw[ ies gIq ƒ nrUlw swihb ny imaUizk id`qw sI, aunHW ny vI ies gIq qy bhuq zor lwieAw sI[ ies gIq ƒ sux ky sroiqAW ny h&iqAW ivc jdoN &on kr ky vDweIAW id`qIAW qW swƒ bhuq ^uSI hoeI[ auh AnoKI ^uSI swƒ kdy vI nhIN Bu`lygI[

? izMdgI dI koeI ABu`l Xwd?

nhIN, koeI Xwd nhI[ (kuJ soc ky) Xwd iek zrUr hY[ pr keI XwdW AYsIAW huMdIAW hn, ijhVIAW qusIN kih nhIN skdy, pr Bulw vI nhIN skdy[ iek 'msqwn isMG hIrw' ieQoN dw bVw A`Cw Awritst hY[ ausny iek myrw gIq gwieAw sI

"lwvW Gu`t Gu`t sIny sohxy Xwr dIAW XwdW,
myrw k`lw k`lw gIq auhdy ipAwr dI XwdW["
myry i^Awl ivc quhwfy leI ieMnw hI kw&I hoxW[

? quhwfy gIqW ivc izAwdw klpnw huMdI hY jW hkIkq?

irAwltI izAwdw huMdI hY klpnw G`t, ikauNik qusIN swrw gIq klpnw nwl nhIN ilK skdy[ aus nwl gIq dw vjUd hI nhIN rihMdw[ gIq izAwdw vDIAw qd hI bxdw hY jy gIq ivc izAwdw hkIkq hovy[

? nvyN gIqkwrW ƒ koeI snyhw dyxW cwhogy?

hW, zrUr khwgy[ mYN qW pihlW vI iehI kihMdw irhw hW hux vI iehI khUgW ik hr gIqkwr ƒ cwhy auh nvW hY jW purwxW, auh ilKx qoN pihloN Awpxy siBAwcwr dw iDAwn r`Ky, aus qoN bwAd ieh socy ik jy ieh gIq myry Gr l`gw hovy qW mYƒ typ bMd qW nhIN krvwauxI pE[ jy auhdw mn khy "nhIN" qW ausƒ inrDVk ho ky gIq ilKxW cwhIdw hY[ jy auh socdw hY ik KUh qy sux lvWgy, Gr ivc Aw bMd kr dvWgy qW AYvyN lokW ƒ guMmrwh krn dw koeI bwhlw &weIdw nhIN[

- hrbMs jI! Awpxy ivcwrW ƒ swfy nwl swJW krn Aqy ivsQwr pUrvk juAwbW leI quhwfw bhuq bhuq SukrIAW[


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