smu`cy pMjwb iv`c jdoN AsIN pMjwbI swihqkwrW bwry g`l krdy hW qW mlveI lyKkW dw nW sB qoN pihlW mwx nwl ilAw jWdw hY[ mwlvy dy jMmpL lyKkW ny pMjwbI swihq dy ivrsy ƒ AmIr bxwaux ivc sB qoN v`fw ih`sw pwieAw[ kvISrW qoN lY ky s. bUtw isMG Swd, guridAwl isMG jYqo, jsvMq isMG kMvl, sMq isMG syKoN Awid ikMny hI hor lyKk mwlvy dI dyx hn[ mwlvy dy swihqk ipMf 'ku`sw' dw jMmpwl, iSvcrn j`gI k`usw bVI CotI aumr ivc bVw v`fw nwmxw K`tx vwlw swihqkwr hY[ ku`sy ipMf dy gurbKS isMG Albylw qy nwvlkwr mrhUm krmjIq isMG ku`sw vI iesy ipMf dI hI dyx hn[

iSvcrn j`gI ku`sw dw jnm 1 AkqUbr 1965 ƒ mwqw gurnwm kOr jI dI ku`KoN hoieAw[ Awp ny mu`FlI iv`idAw gurU nwnk Kwlsw hweI skUl qKqUpurw qoN dsvIN q`k pRwpq kIqI Aqy ie`k swl fI: AY`m: kwlj mogw ivKy lw ky, bwkI dI iv`idAw AwstrIAw Aw ky sMpUrn kIqI[ ‘ku`sw’ ny Awpxw swihqk jIvn nwvl ‘j`t v`iFAw bohV dI CwvyN’ qoN SurU kIqw[ nwvl dy nwl nwl khwxI Aqy kivqw vI ilKI[ ausdI pihlI khwxI ‘dunIAw mqlb dI’ qrsym puryvwl dy pypr ‘dys pRdys’ ivc Cwpx qoN bwAd ‘ku`sw’ pMjwb, brqwnIAw qy kYnyfw qoN Cpx vwly AnykW pricAW ivc CipAw Aqy inrMqr Cp irhw hY[ hux q`k ausny qyrW nwvl qy cwr khwxI-sMgRih pMjwbI swihq dI JolI pwey hn[ Awpxy nwvlW ivc smyN dI nbz ‘qy h`Q r`iKAw hY[ auhny pMjwbI smwj dI AslIAq Awpxy swihq dy drpx ‘coN idKwaux dw Xqn kIqw hY[ iesy kwrn aus dI pwqr auswrI qy auhnW dI bol cwl bVI suBwivk l`gdI hY[ BwvyN ik auh AwstrIAw dw p`kw vsnIk hY pr iehnW nwvlW ƒ pVHky lgdw hY ik ausny pMjwb qy pMjwbIAq ivc gVu`c ho ky iliKAw hY[ A`j k`lH auh pMjwbI ivc sB qoN v`D ilKx Aqy piVHAw jwx vwlw lyKk hY[

suBwA p`KoN inrw drvysæ, XwrW dw Xwr, hmySW iKVy m`Qy imlxw vwlw j`gI ku`sw cwr BYxW dw ie`ko ie`k Cotw lwflw vIr hY[ BwvyN ik ausdy Kyfx m`lx dy idn sn pr kwlj dy hwlwqW ny aus dw Awqm-ivSvwS ieqnw mzbUq bxw id`qw ik ausdy AMdrlw swihqk mnu`K jvwnI dI phu Pu`tdy hI AMgVweIAW lYx l`g ipAw[ auhny AMqW dy qjærby Awpxy qn qy J`ly Aqy AwstrIAw Aw ky mzdUrI krn dy nwl-nwl pVHweI vI kIqI[ pr auhny m`Qy ‘qy iqauVI kdy nhIN pweI, j`dojihd kr ky kMipaUtr dIAW A`T ifgrIAW hwsl kIqIAW[

auhdy ilKx dw smW vI pihlw pihr hI irhw hY, auh rwq do vjy qoN lY ky svyry Cy vjy q`k ilKdw hY[ b`icAW Aqy jIvn swQx leI vI aus dw smW muk`rr hY[ AwstrIAw Aqy jrmn bwrfr pulIs ivc 1986 qoN ieMtrprYtr hY[ iSvcrn j`gI ku`sw bVI qyzI nwl, inrMqr Aqy hr ivSy ‘qy ilKx vwlw auqSwhI nOjvwn lyKk hY[ smkwlI lyKkW, pwTkW, dosqW Aqy pRsæMskW ivc aus nUM "bwbw jI" kih ky siqkwirAw jWdw hY[ lMby smyN qoN auh 'pMj-pwxI swihq sBw' Aqy 'sæyry-pMjwb sports kl`b AwstrIAw' dw pRDwn hY[ pyS hn ribMdr rYNsI nwl hoeI guPqgU dy kuJ AMS...[

ribMdr isMG rYNsI

1. ku`sw swihb qusIN ilKxw kdoN qoN SurU kIqw?

myrI klm dI SurUAwq myrI AiqRpq muh`bq qoN SurU huMdI hY, jdoN nkslweIt lihr zorW ‘qy sI, aus smyN kuJ kivqwvW ilKIAW sn qy frwimAW ivc nkslvwVIey gurjIq dw rol krdw huMdw sI[ audoN hI mYN myry grweIN, kRWqIkwrI kvI sRI Em pRkwS ku`sw dI pRyrnw nwl do-cwr kivqwvW ilKky styj ‘qy pyS vI kIqIAW[

2. quhwfy mnpsMd lyKk ikhVy hn?

vYsy qW pMjwbI dw koeI lyKk pVHn v`loN C`ifAw hI nhIN, pr myry mnpsMd lyKk bweI bUtw isMG Swd, jsvMq isMG kMvl, pRo: guridAwl isMG jYqo, fw. gurnwm ig`l, pRIqm is`DU, blvMq gwrgI, krmjIq ku`sw, rsUl hmzwqov qy mYkism gorkI, ilE twlstwey, mwE-jæy-quMg Awid[ vYsy bweI bUtw isMG sæwd myrw swihqk gurU vI hY[

ieMglYNf ivKy 'pMjwbI s`Q lWbVw' vloN id`qw igAw 'nwnk isMG nwvilst purskwr'

3. qusIN nwvl qoN bgYr vI hor ikhVI- ikhVI swihqk ivDw ‘c rcnwvW isrjIAW hn?

mYN koeI 20-25 kivqwvW[ 60-65 dy krIb gIq[ ijnHW ivcoN 7 ku irkwrf ho cu`ky hn qy 15 ku irkwrifMg ADIn hn[

4. kI qusIN Awpxy Awp ƒ pRmu`K qOr ‘qy khwxIkwr jW nwvlkwr mMndy ho?

myrI klm dy sPr dI SurUAwq hI nwvl “j`t v`iFAw bohV dI CwvyN” qoN hoeI[ TIk hY khwxI ilKdw hW, pr jo g`l AwdmI nwvl ivc kih skdw hY, auh khwxI, gIq jW kivqw ivc nhIN kih skdw[

5. A`j qusIN Awpxy Awp ƒ ik`Qy ku KVHy mihsUs krdy ho?

Awpxy Awp ƒ isKWdrU ijhw lyKk hI smJdw hW[ ieh qW myry pwTk hI morI dI ie`t cubwry ƒ lw idMdy hn, ijhVI ik aunHW dI PrwKidlI qy dirAwidlI hY[ mYN qW Ajy bwby bohV nwvlkwrW dw ividAwrQI hI hW, ikauNik AwdmI swrI aumr ADUrw hI rihMdw hY, sMpUrn kdy nhIN huMdw[ sMpUrn huMdw-huMdw b`s 'pUrw' ho jWdw hY[

6. izMdgI dy swl jo ivdySW ivc guzwry aus bwry kuJ cwnxw pwauNgy?

hW jI, 2 AkqUbr 1980 ƒ mYN AwstrIAw phuMicAw[ pihly cwr swl mYN bVy j`dojihd ‘c guzwry[ gaUAW dw gohw cu`ikAw, hotlW ivc brqn Doqy qy bwlkonIAW ivcoN brPæW htweIAW[ iesdy dOrwn pVHdw vI irhw[ iPr AkqUbr 1984 ivc jw ky su`K dw swh AwieAw[ hux su`K nwl gurU bwby dI ikRpw hY[

hrijMdr isMG mMfyr ('pMjwb tweImz'), j`gI ku`sw, rxjIq isMG rwxw

7. quhwfI nzr ivc ASlIlqw kI hY qy keI quhwfI klm ƒ ASlIl kihMdy hn ik ieh ASlIl ilKdw hY ies bwry quhwfy kI ivcwr hn?

myrI nzr ivc qW ASlIl kuJ vI nhIN hY[ Agr ivSw pwk-piv`qr hovy qW ASlIlqw vI FkI jWdI hY[ AsIN s`qW pridAW ip`Cy vI ngn hW jd ik ieh gory lok inrvsqr ho ky vI Fky hoey hn[

s. KuSvMq isMG ny Ku`lH ky iliKAw, sAwdq hsn mMto ny in`fr ho ky iliKAw[ bweI bUtw isMG Swd ny bVI bybwkI nwl iliKAw[ lyKk ny jo ilKxw huMdw hY, Awpxy smwj ivcoN hI ilKxw huMdw hY[ smwj dIAW burweIAW, smwj dIAW cMigAweIAW, lokW dy hwsy Aqy lokW dy d`uKVy[ hwsy Aqy hwdsy dw nW izMdgI hY[ cMigAweIAW, burweIAW, hwsy Aqy hwdsy quhwƒ hr moV qy cYilMj bx t`krdy hn[ ies sB kwsy dw sumyl bxw ky lyKk ny lokW A`gy pyS krnw huMdw hY[ mYƒ v`Ko v`Kry dySW ‘coN sYNkVy Pon AwauNdy hn ik quhwfy lVIvwr Cpy nwvlW ny qVQ`lI mcw id`qI jI[ qVQ`lI qW lokW dy drd, hwaukw qy ksIs dw myry rcnw sMswr ‘c pRqIibMbq hox kwry m`cI[

svwl dw dUsrw AMqrw ik mYN myrI klm ASlIl jW lyKk vIrW dw ros ausdy jvwb ivc qW mYN iehI khWgw ik hux AsIN gIqW ivc vI Awm suxdy hW ik Poto iK`cxI guAWFxy…[ Awm ipMfW ivc CVy qy guAWFx dy sMbMDW bwry suxdy Aw rhy hW[ iek g`l zrUr zor dy ky khWgw ik ijhVy AsIN Awpxy s`iBAwcwr dy du`D Doqy hox dw sMG pwV-pwV ky dwAvw krdy hW, jo ik iek iblkul Poækw qy byhUdw dwAvw hY[ ASlIlqw rcnw ivc nhIN mnu`KI mn dIAW qYhW ivc huMdI hY[

8. qusIN Awpxy jIvn ivc ieMny ruJyivAW BrI izMdgI ivcoN b`icAW qy Gr vwlI leI smW ikvyN k`Fdy ho?

mYN koeI pRoPYSnl lyKk nhIN hW jo ik mY cOvI GMty hI ilK ky hI guzwrdw hW[ myrw ilKx leI Aqy pirvwr leI smW nIXq kIqw hoieAw hY[ jd mYN mW-bwp ƒ ihMdosqwn imlx leI jWdw hW qW aus smyN mYN iek A`Kr vI nhIN ilKdw, ikauNik auh smW isrP Awpxy mW-bwp qy irSqydwrW im`qrW vwsqy hI rwKvW r`iKAw huMdw hY[

9. qusIN AwstrIAw qy jrmn bwrfr pulIs dy ieMtrprYtr vI ho, kI kdy jrmn ivc vI ilKx bwry soicAw hY?

jrmn BwSw ivc mYN kdy nhIN iliKAw[ ho skdw hY ik ies ivc koeI iJjk jW kmzorI hovy[ jrmn BwSw aupr mYƒ ieqnI muhwrq hwsl vI nhIN hY ik jrmn ‘c iPkSn ilK skW[ cwhy mYN jrmn pVHI hY, AwstrIAw ivc myrw mIfIAm hI jrmn BwSw rhI hY[ pr ies zubwn ivc khwxI jW nwvl ilK skxw myry leI muSikl hY[ Swied iksy pVwA qy koiSS krky dyKW[ hW, mYN jrmn BwSw ivc keI ikqwbW pVHIAW hn[ ijMnHW ivcoN ifktytr AwfolP ihtlr dI ikqwb ‘myrI jMg’ G`to G`t ds vwr pVH c`ukw hW[

10. qusIN khwxI ivc Porm ƒ mh`qqw idMdy ho jW ivSy ƒ?

mYN rUp ƒ pRmu`Kqw idMdw hW[ qusIN vIh khwxIAW pVH lvo, auhnW ivcoN keI khwxIAW dy ivSy sWJy iml jwxgy[ g`l qW ieh hY ik lyKk ny khwxI ilKI ikvyN hY qy ausdI Porm kI hY? myry ilKdy smyN ieh g`l mu`K huMdI hY ik myrI g`l pwTk dy mn au`pr ikvyN aukwrI jwvy[

j`gI ku`sw Aqy rvI pRwSr (iPlm inrmwqw)

11. kdy kdy quhwfI kivqw vI pVHn nMU iml jWdI hY, kivqw ieqnI G`t ikauN ilKdy ho?

kivqw myrw SOk hY[ pr mYƒ l`gdw hY ik mYN AwpxI g`l nwvl jW khwxI ivc hI ibhqr aujwgr kr skdw hW, jW mYN smJdw hW ik kivqw au`pr myrI pkV pUrI nhIN hY[ Swied kivqw ilKx dI huVk jwgdI hY qW kivqw dI QW gIq ilK lYNdw hW[ kivqw dw mYN pwTk hW, pr Zzl myry isr au`proN dI lMG jWdI hY[

12. quhwfIAW sqwrW pusqkW Cp cu`kIAW hn Aqy keI nwvlW dy keI-keI AYfISn Cp cu`ky hn, ieqnw ilKx ivc ikqnI ku sMquStI imlI hY?

mwVI motI sMquStI imlI hY[ nwvl jW khwxI sMgRih Cp jwx qoN bwAd ieMJ jwpdw hY ik ikDry bhuq kuJ ADUrw rih igAw hY[ vYsy lyKk dI sMquStI G`t hI huMdI hY[ ijs idn lyKk pUrI qrHW sMquSt ho igAw, aus idn auh ilKxoN h`t jwvygw[

13. quhwfy nwvl ‘purjw purjw kit mrY’, ‘qvI qoN qlvwr q`k', 'au`jV gey grW', 'qrksæ tMigAw jMf', 'j`t v`iFAw bohV dI CwvyN' Aqy 'bwrHIN kohIN bldw dIvw’ keI AKbwrW ivc ie`ko smyN lVIvwr Cpy Aqy sMswr Br dy pMjwbIAW ivc iesdI BrvIN pRsMsw hoeI[ ies p`KoN ikqnI ku sMquStI mihsUs krdy ho?

iehnW nwvlW krky ijqnw mwx siqkwr pMjwbIAW Aqy is`K BweIcwry ny mYƒ bKiSAw, ieh mYN lPæjæI qOr ‘qy d`s nhIN skdw[ mYƒ ieMglYNf, AmrIkw, kYnyfw, bYljIAm, sivtjrlYNf, ietlI, PærWs, hOlYNf, jrmnI Aqy hor dySW ivcoN s`dy Awey Aqy Aw rhy hn[ mYƒ pMjW qKqW dy j`Qydwr sihbwn ny vI snmwinq kIqw Aqy AQwh mwx bKiSAw[ ies qrHW hr jgHw ij`Qy-ij`Qy vI mYƒ snmwinq kIqw igAw, golf mYfl imly, mYƒ bVI KuSI mihsUs hoeI[ ijs nwl mYƒ AQwh Awqimk bl imilAw[

14.p`Cm ivc rcy jw rhy pMjwbI swihq ivc gory pwqr ieqny G`t ikauN huMdy hn?

quhwfI ieh g`l TIk hY[ AsIN pMjwbI p`Cm ivc 40-50 swlW qoN rih rhy hW[ pr swfIAW rcnwvW ivc Aijhy pwqr nhIN Awey ijqny ik Awauxy cwhIdy sn[ Swied ies dw kwrn ieh hY ik ie`Dr lyKkW dw vwh G`t ipAw hY[ jy ipAw vI hY qW nYgyitv qOr ‘qy[ ies Kwqr swƒ hwly qjæribAW ivcoN lMGxw pvygw[ gory pwqr dIAW mn dIAW guQlIAW Prolx leI auhnW dy izAwdw nyVy jwxw hovygw[ ijqny ku gory pwqr Awey hn, auhnW dw icqrn vI AsQweI hY[

15. BwrqI pMjwbI lyKk prvwsI pMjwbI lyKkW bwry Aksr kihMdy hn ik bwhrly lyKk pYsy dy ky AwpxIAW ikqwbW CpvwauNdy hn?

ieh inrmUl bdnwmI hY[ kuJ ku nwmvr lyKkW ƒ C`f ky swry hI pYsy dy ky ikqwbW CpvwauNdy hn[ ieh iksy qy qohmq nhIN hY[ ieh qW pMjwbI swihqkwr dw duKWq hI hY[ kuJ ku lyKkW ƒ C`f ky pMjwbI swihq ivc ikMny ku lyKk hn, ijMnw ƒ pRkwSk AwvwzW mwrdy hn ik AwE quhwfI ikqwb CwpIey? Aijhy lyKkW dI igxqI ingUxI hY[ lyKk dw p`Dr ausdI rcnw huMdI hY[ ikqwb Cwpxw vI pRkwSk ny Awpxy Pwiedy bwry socxw hY[ pRkwSk qW dukwndwr hY, pqw nhIN ikMnw ku suc`jw swihq pYsy KuxoN AxCipAw rih igAw jW AxCipAw ipAw hY[

16. lyKkW ivclI jo gru`pbMdI hY, aus bwry quhwfy kI ivcwr hn?

DVybMdI iek kudrqI cIz hY[ ieh hr jgHw Aqy hr Kyqr ivc huMdI hY[ gru`pbMdI ieqnI mwVI cIz nhIN hY[ pr jd iesdy pRBwv hyT hlkI rcnw ƒ vDIAw bxw id`qw jWdw hY Aqy vDIAw rcnw ƒ AxgOilAW kIqw jWdw hY, ieh mwVI g`l hY[ hux qusIN ieQy hI lY lvo ik swƒ pMjwbI lyKk dI QW pRvwsI lyKk krky jwixAw jWdw hY[ ieMglYNf dy ip`Cy XU.ky., AmrIkw dy lyKkW mgr XU.AYs.ey. hI iliKAw huMdw hY[ pMjwbI jW ihMdusqwnI lyKk swfy au`pr AwstrIAw jW ieMglYNf vwlw lybl icpkw idMdy hn[ pr iPr vI mYN pMjwbI lyKk rihx dI Aqy gru`pbMdI qoN pwsy rihx dI hI koiSS ivc rihMdw hW[

17. qusIN khwxIAW dy ivSy ikvyN cuxdy jW l`Bdy ho?

hornW lyKkW vWg khwxI mYN vI Awly-duAwly ivcoN lYNdw hW[ AKbwr pVH ky jW iksy dI d`sI g`l aupr vI rcnw ho jWdI hY[ ienswn nwl izMdgI ivc ieqnw kuJ vwprdw hY ik pYr-pYr ‘qy khwxI peI imldI hY[ pr quhwnMU cox Awp krnI pYNdI hY[ khwxI cuxn Aqy ausdy inBwA dw qrIkw hr lyKk dw v`Krw hI huMdw hY[ ijhVw ivSw myrI pkV ivc nw Awvy, mYN ausnMU ilKx qoN guryz hI krdw hW[

pRo: moqw isMG srwey nwlw

18. ikMnHW iviSAW au`pr ilKxw psMd krdy ho?

mYƒ mnu`KI sMbMDW bwry g`l krnI cMgI l`gdI hY, vYsy qW mn`uK dI koeI vI sm`isAw hovy mYƒ bycYn krdI hY[ jy ho sky qW mYN ilKdw vI hW[ ies bwry myry iek dosq ny ikhw sI ik jy rotI dw mslw h`l ho jwvy qW swry msly h`l ho skdy hn[ pr mYN socdw hW ik Asl ivc msly qw SurU hI auQoN huMdy hn[ jzbwqW ivc koeI AwdrSvwd nhIN cldw, iehnW dw vhwn kudrqI hI huMdw hY[

19. ivdySW ivc kI ieho ijhy ivSy vI hn, jo lyKkW ny nhIN Cohy?

ieh suAwl hY qW bhuq hI Aihm, ho skdw hY mYN iesdw au`qr hI nw dy skdw hovW[ ieQy dIAW bhuq swrIAW sm`isAwvW hn, jo pMjwbI khwxI dI pkV ivc nhIN AweIAW[ jy iksy ny iliKAw hY qW in`T ky nhIN iliKAw[ audwhrx dy qOr ‘qy rwibMdr nwQ tYgor dI ‘hom kimMg’ vrgI iek vI khwxI pMjwbI ivc nhIN hY[ qusIN myry khwxI sMgRih ‘aUTW vwly bloc’ ivcoN ‘bwbw bKqOrw’ ‘mVIAW dy bldy dIvy’ Awid pVH ky dyK lvo, ieh pMjwbI bzurgW Aqy ivAwh leI AweIAW muitAwrW Aqy nOjvwnW dy duKWq ƒ aujwgr krdIAW hn[

20. purwxy lyKk nvyN lyKkW ƒ A`KoN-proKy ikauN krdy hn?

nhIN, AijhI g`l nhIN hY[ hr bMdy dI v`KrI SKsIAq huMdI hY[ dUjI g`l AsIN lyKkW ƒ bVy v`fy bMdy mMnx l`g pYNdy hW. jd ik auh sDwrn mnu`K hI huMdy hn[ Awm bMidAW vwlIAW kmzorIAW auhnW ivc vI huMdIAW hn[ AsIN auhnW qoN v`fIAW AwsW r`Kdy hoey, aunW q`k phuMc krdy hW[ AsIN auhnW bwry idlW ivc v`KrIAW qsvIrW bxweIAW huMdIAW hn[ jd ik purwxy lyKk swfIAW jVHW hn, pOVI nhIN[

21. quhwfI lyKk bxn dI koeI KwihS sI?

bweI jI! nw qW lyKk bixAw jw skdw hY Aqy nw hI lyKk pYdw kIqw jw skdw hY[ ieh qW kudrq v`loN hI ie`k Anmol bKiSS huMdI hY[ Ad`uqI dwq huMdI hY[ lyKk bxnw qW mYN kdI supny ivc vI nhIN sI icqivAw[ hW, kwlj tweIm qy iPlmW dyK-dyK ky mYnUM AYktr bxn dw hLk zrUr auiTAw sI[ pr ‘k`lw-‘k`lw pu`q hox krky GridAW ny pyS nw jwx id`qI[ iPr gwiek bxn dw hINgxw Cu`t ipAw[ iPr mW bwp ny cwr BYxW dw iek`lw Brw hox dw Aihsws krvwieAw[ myrIAW cwr BYxW v`fIAW hn, mYN swrIAW qoN Cotw qy lwflw irhw hW[ b`s, iPr gurU mhwrwj ny ilKx v`l qor ilAw[

22. qusIN fbl jOb krdy hox krky ieqny ibjæI hox nwL ilKdy ikvyN qy kdoN ho?

jd mYN koeI v`f-AkwrI nwvl ilKxw SurU krdw hW qW 24 GMitAW ivc isrP iek vwr Kwxw KWdw hW[ rwq ƒ A`T ku vjy sON jWdw hW Aqy svyry do vjy au`T ky cwh pI ky ilKx bYT jWdw hW Aqy swFy ku cwr GMty, mqlb swFy ku Cy vjy q`k ilKdw hW[ iPr b`cy au`T KVHdy hn[ jy b`icAW ƒ Cu`tI hovy qW svyr dy ds-igAwrW vjy q`k su`qy rihMdy hn Aqy myrw ilKx dw kMm b`icAW dy s`uqy rihx q`k cldw rihMdw hY[ Gr dw swrw kMm myrI GrvwlI dw sMBwilAw hoieAw hY, myry qy koeI pirvwrk boJ nhIN su`tdI, mYN Awzwd hW[

23. qusIN 1980 qoN p`ky qOr ‘qy AwstrIAw rih rhy ho, jd ik pMjwb dw duKWq mu`K qOr ‘qy 1984 ivc SurU hoieAw[ iPr ‘purjw-purjw kit mrY’, qvI qoN qlvwr q`k’ Aqy ‘bwrHIN kohI bldw dIvw', ivc icqrIAW GtnwvW qusIN ik`QoN leIAW?

mYƒ dyS Aqy ivdySW ivc Cpdy 74 AKbwrW Aqy rswilAW ivc Cpx dw mwx hwisl hY[ 1986 qoN lYky hux q`k myry kol hr qrHW dw AKbwr Aqy rswlw pu`jdw irhw hY Aqy pu`j irhw hY[ jo GtnwvW AKbwrW rswilAW ivc CpdIAW rhIAW, auh k`t ky r`K lYNdw irhw[ iPr fyF swl lw ky ‘purjw purjw kit mrY', nON mhIinAW ivc ‘qvI qoN qlvwr q`k' Aqy qkrIbn igAwrW ku mhIinAW ivc ‘bwrHIN kohIN bldw dIvw’ iliKAw[ pMjwb dy duKWq ‘qy ilKIAW bhuq ikqwbW pVHIAW, AiDAYn kIqw, iPr iliKAw[

24. qusIN Awpxy nwvl ‘purjw purjw kit mrY’, ‘qvI qoN qlvwr q`k’ Aqy ‘bwrIN kohI bldw dIvw', ‘c bVI infrqw Aqy bybwkI nwl is`K pMQ dw drd icqirAw hY[ pr keI lok quhwfy “sihjDwrI” hox qy kwPæI K&w hn?

dyKo bweI jI, jy mYN dwhVI kys ktvwauNdw hW qW myrw Awpxw in`jI mslw hY[ bwbrI msijd FwhI qW mYN iliKAw, pwdrIAW ‘qy hmlw hoieAw mYN qW iliKAw[ iPr qW muslmwn Brw kihx l`g jWdy, beI qusIN swfy du`K ilKy hn, hux suMnq krvw lvo[ ikRScIAn lok kihx l`g pYNdy beI hux qusIN ie`Dr Aw jwvo[ pwKMfI bMdw mYN iblkul nhIN, ienswnIAq nMU ipAwr krn vwlw r`b dw bMdw hW[ muAw& krnw mYƒ, quhwfy swhmxy ikMny suc`ijAW dwhiVAW vwly lyKk hn[ pr suAwl qW ieh auTdw hY ik ikMinAW ku ny eImwndwrI nwl is`K pMQ dI g`l kIqI? mYN nhIN kihMdw ik mYN bhuq v`fw lyKk hW, pr bu`kl ivc guV Born vwilAW nwloN iPr vI mwVw motw cMgw hW[ myrI soc muqwibk jy ie`k inrp`K lyKk ƒ ‘lyKk’ hI rihx id`qw jwvy qW ibhqr hY ikauNik is`KI bKSI jWdI hY, TosI nhIN jWdI[ sRI gurU goibMd isMG jI dy in`jI kvI sYnwpq jI dy AMimRq Ckx dw ieiqhws ivc ikqy izkr nhIN AwauNdw[ mYN qW bhuq mwmUlI ijhw lyKk hW, mzhb pRqI suAwl qW pRis`D lyKk sAwdq hsn mMto vrigAW ‘qy vI auTdy rhy[ jy isrP dwhiVAW vwly hI is`K hn? qW ies pRqI sYNkVy audwhrxW id`qIAW jw skdIAW hn[ dUr jwx dI loV nhIN 1947 qoN lY ky hux q`k dw ieiqhws pVH ky hI dyK lvo[

25. qusIN A`jk`l kI kr rhy ho qy Biv`K dIAW kI XojnwvW hn?

A`j k`lH iek v`f-AkwrI nwvl ‘gorK dw it`lw’ sMpUrn krn vwlw hW[ "qUM su`qw r`b jwgdw" khwxI-sMgRih mwrkIt ivc Awaux vwlw hY[ "qrksæ tMigAw jMf" nwvl msæhUr mwisk pypr 'kOmWqrI pRdysI' ivc lVIvwr Cp irhw hY[ ies qoN ielwvw bVI jldI iek kwlm “zKm boldy nhIN” ieMtrnY`t qy SurU krn jw rhy hW[ aus qoN bwAd AwstrIAw dy jn-jIvn qy nwvl ilKx dw ierwdw hY[ Agly 4-5 swlW ivc svY-jIvnI ilKwgW, ijs dw mYN nW q`k soc r`iKAw hY, “ku`lI nI PækIr dI ivcoN”[

26. A`j k`l qusIN dyS-ivdyS ivc bhuq pVHy qy slwhy jw rhy ho, qusIN ieh pRis`DI leI ikhVI rcnw dw izAwdw Xogdwn smJdy ho?

“purjw purjw kit mrY” nwvl myry leI vrdwn is`D hoieAw[ ies nwl myrI dyS Aqy ivdySW ivc pihcwx bxI[ jdoN ieh nwvl ‘pMjwb tweImz’ ieMglYNf ivc lVIvwr Cp irhw sI, audoN tYlIPoæn Aqy AYfr`Ys Cpx auprMq mYƒ dySW ivdySW ivcoN sYNkVy Pon Aqy p`qr Awey[ ies nwl mYnMU bVw Awqimk bl imilAw[ auprokq nwvl hux ATwrHvIN vwr drSn imqvw ny, mwnsw qoN ikqwbI rUp ivc CwipAY[ bhuq pwTkW ny iesnMU AMgryzI vrgIAW hor BwSwvW ivc Anuvwd krvw ky Cpvwaux dI rwie id`qI Aqy srdwr DVmYq vrigAW ny ies qy lVIvwr iPælm bxwaux bwry vI ikhw[ pRis`D p`qrkwr sR: bsMq isMG rwmUvwlIAw ny ikhw ik ieh nwvl pMjwb dy Gr-Gr ivc mOjUd hoxw cwhIdw hY[ ies hW p`KI huMgwry qoN bwAd nwvl “qvI qoN qlvwr q`k” Aqy “bwrHIN kohIN bldw dIvw” iliKAw[ A`j k`lH iliKAw jw irhw nwvl “gorK dw it`lw” myry Awqimk AMdwzy Anuswr myrI Swhkwr rcnw hovygI[

27. kI ipCly nwvlW vWg ies nwvl ivc vI KrvHIN BwSw vrqI geI hY?

mYN nwvl dy pwqrW dy mUMh ivc iek vI lPz nhIN pwauNdw[ ijho ijhw myry iksy pwqr dw ikrdwr (krYktr) hY, auh AwpxI auhI rvwieqI BwSw boldw hY[ ikauNik iek igAwnI purS Aqy puls APsr dy vrqwE ivc kohW dw AMqr hY[ mYN iehnW dI rvwieqI BwSw nMU qoV mroV ky pyS krnw iek gunWh hI nhIN, ihmwkq vI smJdw hW[ pr myry pwTkW ny myrIAW rcnwvW pVHky ASlIlqw bwry kdy iSkwieq nhIN kIqI[ jy koeI Aijhw kwrn huMdw qW myrw ie`k-ie`k nwvl 18-18 vwrI nw Cpdw[

28. quhwfw pirvwr quhwfy lyKk hox ƒ ikvyN lYNdw hY Aqy auhnW dw kI sihXog hY?

sB qoN izAwdw lyKk bxn ivc myry siqkwrXog fYfI jI qy myrI pqnI dw Xogdwn irhw hY[

29. j`gI swihb gRihsQI jIvn bwry cwnxw pwEgy?

myrI pqnI svrnjIq ku`sw hY, ijs nwl myrI lv-mYirj hoeI hY qy auh myrI lyKxI dw srmwieAw hY[ aus dy shwry sdw mYN iek suc`jI izMdgI bqIq kr irhw hW[ myry iqMn bytIAW qy bytw kbIr ic`kU k`usw hY[

30. ilKx qoN ibnW koeI hor vI SOk hY?

pVHnw, ilKxw Aqy gurU bwby dy gux gwauxw[ bwkI Pursq dy plW ivc gwaux pwxI vI sux leIdY bweI jI[

31. Awpxy pwTkW leI koeI sunyhw?

bVI sMquStI hY pwTkW qoN bweI jI, pwTk hI swfI pOVI hn[ ijnW Awsry inrbl lyKk ny pRis`DI hwisl kIqI[ b`s! ijauNdy vsdy rihx mOjW mwnx[ rYNsI bweI jI mYƒ pwTkW dy rU-b-rU krvwaux leI quhwfw qih idloN DMnvwdI hW[

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