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sroieAw

01/02/04

to mr virk and mr satnam singh

satkarjog sardar sahib,

tuhada khat padia, te tuhade khat di tarif karan walean nu bhi padia, bada bura lagia, tuhade warge sikhan karke hi aaj sikh kaum aah din dekh rahi hai. kaden socheia hai . world map te sikhan di ki haiseiat hai. u people r staying abroad. ur mind, ur intellect, ur intelligence is not under the control of indian govt. tell me how many sikh nobel prize winner, booker prize winner or oscar winners do u know? forget abt oscar or noble prize! can u please tell me whts literacy rate in sikhs? now u will give a argument that indian govt does want sikh youth to be educated? but can u please explain abt the state of
affairs of khalsa colleges? do u know whts the admission criteria in -guru ramdas medical college?or can u explain me the cigrette smoking (turbaned) sikhs in southhall or new york

do u ever tried to know the reasons behind increase in female foetocide in punjab? do u know last year there were 30 percent vacant seats in punjab enginerring college? is it the fault of indian govt if there is continous increase in alcohol consumption and drug abuse in punjab?

do u think we deserve respect just because we r sikhs? do u think nymphomaniacs like khuswant sikh and sycophants like harkishan sikh surjeet represnts sikhs? if not that who represents sikhs? now dont blame on our leaders? u can also be a leader wht do u think just by blaming indian govt we can get rid of our short comings?

SAROYA

sMdIp isMG gryvwl, nwrvy

01/02/04

If you do not already know, a law is in the process of being passed in France to prevent people expressing  their faith in a visual way in public institutions  such as schools.(It is in fact an amendment to an old law.) For Sikh children this means that they will not  be able to wear turbans or have beards (as this  clarification was recently made). For any Sikh this is  outrageous as it shows a complete lack of respect and understanding of the faith (not to mention many others such as Judaism/Islam) and at the very least is  against basic human rights, I could go on and on.... If you feel as strongly about this as I do, please sign this petition and send it on to anyone you think shares the basic beliefs of freedom...

http://www.petitiononline.com/sikh5555/petition.html
You can find more at www.unitedsikhs.org

Sundeep Singh Grewal
Norway
Oslo

gurU nwnk is~K suswietI

01/02/04

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gurU nwnk is~K suswietI

siqnwm isMG

31/01/04

vIr suirMdrpwl ivrk dw K~q bhuq vDIAw hY[ aus ny Ajwd Bwrq iv~c ijQy is~KW nwl D~kw ho irhw hY, aus bwry ilKx dI koiSS kIqI hY[ Bwrq iv~c jo srdwr dI iejq hY ies bwry d~sx dI jrUrq nhI hY, Awp swry hI jwxdy ho[ pr iPr vI jo vIr hwly vI iefIAn hox qy PKr mihsUs krdy hn, kI bilaU stwr, idlI dMigAW nUM Bul gey hn[ pMjwb iv~c hjwrW dI igxqI iv~c isK nOjuAwnW nUM mrdw dyKx vwilau, hwly vI ieMfIAn hox qy PKr krdy ho[ jy swnUM hwly vI soJI nhI AweI iPr kdy vI nhI Aw skdI[ iek vIr ny iliKAw hY ky pMjwb ieMfIAw dw iek ihsw hY, pr ihsw qy pwiksqwn vI ieMfIAw dw hI hY, iPr aus bwry kI ilKo gy[ kdy mhwrwjw rxjIq isMG dw rwj huMdw sI qy ieh ieMfIAw aus dw iek ihsw sI[ vIr jIau ieh ihsy iksy dy nhI hn[ A~j jy pMjwb nUM AsI ihMdosqwn dw ih~sw mMndy hW qy k~l nUM ieh ihsw nhI vI rih skdw[

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ieMfIAn hox qy PKr krn vwilau hr pwsy gWDI dw hI bol bwlw hY, hr koeI gWDI nUM hI rwStr ipqw d~s irhw hY, pr kI gurU qyg bhwdr swihb dI kurbwnI nMU Bul gey ho[ kI iehnW lokW kolo kdI gurU swihb bwry suixAW hY, iehnW ny qW gurduAwrw sIs gMj sihb ie~ty p~Qr mwry hn qy mrvwey hn, qusI iPr vI ieMfIAn hox qy PKr kr rhy ho[ ijMnw ny ictIAW p~gW bMnIAW sn Bwv Awpxy Awp nUM kWgrsI hox dw dwAvw krdy sn nUM vI idlI dMigAW iv~c brwbr dI kut peI hY[ iksy ny ieh nhI dyiKAw ky ieh, kWgrsI hY jwx idau[ b~s mslw qy dsqwr vwly dw sI[ aus dyS iv~c vwrI vwrI swirAW nUM kut peI hY qy pvy gI[ Bwv kdI isKW nUM, kdI muslmwnW nUM qy kdI iesweIAW nUM[ pr myrw iKAwl hY ky auh ieMfIAn hox qy ieMnw PKr nhI krdy ijMnW iqrMgy dw swnUM buKwr hY[
glqIAW dI iKmW[
siqnwm isMG

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

31/01/04

HELLO ONE OF READER OF 5abi.COM,

CAN YOU SAY ONE THING WHO WERE THAT PEOPLE SOME ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR GOLDEN ATTACK , NOT ONLY INDIAN GOVT BUT WE SIKHS TOO, HOLY PLACE IS FOR WORKSHIP NOT FOR ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THOSE DAYS IN GOLDEN TEMPLE EVERY BODY KNOWS, GURU NANAK AND GURU GOBIND SINGH JI NEVER PREACHED THAT WE SIKHS SHALL KILL HINDUS , GURU TEG BAHUDUR GAVE HIS LIFE FOR ANOTHER RELIGION , BUT IN 1983 _1984 INSTEAD FOR PREACHING MESSAGE OF PIECE ORDERS WERE GIVEN FROM GOLDEN TEMPLE THAT IK SIKH NU 36 HINDU AAYODA HA, AND INSTEAD FOR LOVE THEIR WAS HATERACY SOME WERE COMING OUT IN THOSE DAYS FROM OUR HOLIEST PLACE SHRI HARMINDER SAHIB, SO WHO ARE THOSE ARE RESPONSI BLE FOR 84 ATTACK , MESSAGE OF HATERACY WAS NEVER PREACHED BY GURU NANAK DEV JI NOT EVEN BY GURU GOBIND SINGH JI, THERE IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEORY AND PRACTICE .

KARNI AND KATHNI CH FARAK HA, AND I DONT THINK SOME WHO CELEBRATE DIWALI RAKHRI DO SOME WRONG , THESE FESTIVALS NEVER GIVE MESSAGE OF HATERACY, AND 90%SIKH CELEBRATE RAKHRI AND THERE IS PROVERB IN PUNJABI DAL ROTI GHAR DI DIWALI AMBARSAR DI AND THAT IS CELEBRATED IN GOLDEN TEMPLE ACCORDING HISTORY OF OUR GURU AND 52HILLY KINGS SOME WERE RELEASED FROM GWALIOR FORT,WHEN 90% SIKHS BELIEVE IN RAKHRI SOME IS FESTIVAL OF SISTERAFFECTION TOWARDS BROTHER SO IT IS DIIFICULT IS SAY CAN WE SAY THAT PERSONS SIKHS WHO DONT BELIEVE IN LOVE AND THINK BHAN DI VEER PRATI SHARDA BAKWAS HA , JA PHIR O 90% SOME BELIEVE IN LOVE, SOME IS LESSON TAUGHT BY OUR GURUS.

IT IS PERSONALLY AND DEPENDS UPON OUR NATURE , ANY WAY I AND MANY OTHERS THINK THAT WE HAVE LOVE FOR INDIA AND FOR US IT IS MATTER OF PROUD,FOR THEM WHO THINKS THAT IT ASHAMED US SIKHS THEY ARE UP TO THEM.
SAT SRI AKAL
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLONMOGA NORWAY

cMdr SyKr, BwrqI EvrsIz sMsQw, lY~str

30/01/04

A~j 30 jnvrI nMU gWDI jI dy ShIdI idvs qy lY~str dy BwrqIAW vloN auhnW dIAW dyS syvwvW leI idlI SrDWjlIAW ByNt kIqIAW geIAW[ vwkeI gWDI jI Bwrq dw nwm dunIAW Br 'c rOSn kr gey hn jo ik rihMdI dunIAW q~k isqwry vWg cmkdw rhygw[ dunIAW dy mhwn Amn pujwrI roz roz pYdw nhIN huMdy .....

cMdr SyKr, BwrqI EvrsIz sMsQw, lY~str

inrml isMG DONsI

30/01/04

myry ic`qr myry Sbd

A``j iPr mW bolI pMjwbI dI g`l c`lI hY mYN bhuqw ku`J nhIN ilKwgw, pr SurU ies qrHW krdw hW

"mW bolI hI ie`k AijhI bolI hY ijhVI AwpxI mW kolo nhIN is`KI jWdI"

LyKkW jW bu``DImwnW ny ies mu`dy nUM hmySw auTwieAw hY ikaUik auhnW ies dI mh`qqw nUM vwicAw hY ie`k lyKk BwvyN ikMnW vI vDIAw lyKk ikauN nw hovy pr auh lokwN nUM bolI isKwauxo AsmrQ hY pr auh bolI nwl Kyfxw isKwaux iv`c mwihr hY

jyhVy lyKk Awpxy lokW iv`c bolI dI cytk lwaux leI ku`J kr skdy hn auh pMjwbI bolI iv`c n mwqr hI hn ie`Qy myrw Bwv b``icAW leI sihq ilKxw jW swihq dI rcnw krnI ies dy kI kwrx hn s`B lyKk ies aupr vwrqwlwp CyV skdy hn

s`B qoN ijAwdw Aqy bhuq Aihmq r`Kx vwlw ikrdwr ieh auhnw s`jxw dy h`Q hY jo pMjwbIAW ny Awpxy AwgU cux ky pMjwb rwj sBw leI Byjy hn iehnW AwgUAW ny hI Aqy isrP iehnW ny hI pMjwbI bolI dy leI ku``J krnw hY iPr iehnw ny hI pMjwbI bolI nUM skUl dw ivhVw idKwauxw hY ijQoN iPr ie`k AiDAwpk dw ikrdwr SurU huMdW hY ijsny bolI dw imAwrI nINh p`Qr r`Kxw huMdw hY

ies bolI pRqI AvyslI nIqI dy hI is`ty Ajoky pMjwbI Bugq rhy hn lok kdI vI Avysly nhIN huMdy auh auhI is`Kdy hn jo auhnw nUM Awpxy Awly duAwly qoN imldw hY

ijhVy b`cyy bwhrly dySw iv`c jMmdy/pldy hn jd ieh ie`Qy jMmy/ply b``cy ie`Qo dy lyKkw dIAW b``icAW dy leI ilKIAW ikqwbW nwl vwkPIAq pwaudy hn iPr AsI mwpy iehnw nUM pMjwbI iv`c b``icAW leI ilKIAW ikhVIAW ikqwbW idAwgy? aUuh ikqwbW isrP pMjwbI iv`c hI hoxIAW kwPI nhIN sgoN auhnW dw idlcsp/rOck hoxw vI aunW hI jrUrI hY

Awaux vwlI pnIrI leI soco AwpW qW d`b Gu`t ky lMGwA hI lYxI hY

inrml isMG DONsI

gurjIq isMG prUQI, knyfw

30/01/04

In reference to the letter of Surinderpal Virk from America, I agree with him one hundred percent. When and why did we (sikhs) start saying "Happy republic day". as what is happy about it.Even when we were slaves to the British, they had all the respect for Sikhs, their religion, their culture, their appearence, and it is a well known fact that any body in the army caught trimming the moustche or beared or caught smoking would be court marshalled. And now our own elected Govt. has no respect for sikhs or their religion. I have seen military personneles in their "PATKA" and not in the turbans.

What they (Hindu dominated Govt.) did to Golden Temple and to sikhs in 1984 is well known to every body all over the world. I do not know how a real sikh, reading Guru Granth Sahib, following the doctrines of sikhism can forgive and forget, when the Indian Govt. did not have the decency of saying a "sorry" for it.  How can we celebrate Republic Day and greet each other when thousands of young sikhs are still in the prisons without any absolute reason and they are deprived of all the amenities and comfort of their homes.

I think the people who call themselves the sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh and celebrate Diwali, Dussehra, Janam Ashtami, Independence day, Republic day etc. should be ashamed of themselves. The only happy day we should celebrate is the day Guru Nanak Dev ji was born and Guru Gobind Singh was born. And the only SAD DAY we should remember in the history of Punjab and sikh history is the day Golden Temple was attacked with cannons and tanks. A real sad day.........

People write wills for their children and my 'will' be to my children, never forget JUNE 4, 1984 and do your best to at least get the proper apology from the Govt. of India.
Gurjit Singh Proothee
Brampton, Canada

mnpRIq isMG mlySIAw

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- dlbIr isMG

30/01/04

Sat sri akal to all 5abi.com visitors.

i just read Dalbir singh`s article "waris shah na ...." really it is so true. once somebody gets these habits its very hard to stop but not impossible. Dalbir Singh ji, the two examples about American and bibi ji are wonderful. I really appreciate it. they cant make it stop. not only bibi ji, baba ji as well. I suggest all Punjabi fellows to make their own leader. I mean the person who is not involved in this "GAND". sorry I cant write in Punjabi because I don't have that software.

Dalbir Singh ji, you are doing extremely good job. keep it up so that we can have some knowledge about these buggers. I hate this government who makes Punjab and Punjabi people down in Indian society and in world
yours sincerely
Manpreet Singh "Malaysia"

pRIq ig`l

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- dlbIr isMG

30/01/04

hello dilbir singh ji

i was read ur pharagraph
i think ur right, koki asi pardesa vich rhande apni maa boli nu bulde jande hai. mai switzerland tu hai. manu khusi hoyi tuhada laikh parke sanu apni maa boli da satkar karna cahida hai. sanu punjabi bolde time sarem nahi karni jahidi nale un ta punjabi har ik than te han
mail vich galti nu maif karna
satsriakal
preet gill

hrdIp isMG

30/01/04

siq sRI Akwl
C`bI jnvrI dy chyiqAW nUM iek g`l Xwd r`KxI cwhIdI hY ik sMqwlI dI vMf qO bwAd Aqy hux q`k is`KW ny ies sMivDwn Eupr sweIn nhI kIqy !

Sikhs nevr approved this document since 1950. The reasons for not signiing are well knowon . This republic day is all political stunt. Mr. Virk is right because any consitution that treat its people as 2nd class citizens is not worth celebrating. This is not a Sikh Hindu issue. Why can't we (Sikhs) have those liberties that others have like , justice in the court for Sikh genocide of 1984-1993, our own marriage act (Anand marriage act was approved by British), removel of article 25, river water disribution according to riparian law.

Hardeep Singh

dwrw iSkwgo, AmrIkw

30/01/04

ijny vI myry vIrw ny Bwrq mUl dy hox qy mwx mihsUs krn dI g`l kIqI hY auh swry TIk hn, swnUM ikau nI mwx hoxw cwhIdw ipAwry Bwrq qy Kws krky is`Kw nUM auh ies krky cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swnUM g`lw ivc tweIr pw pw ky mwrn , cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swfy Dwrimk A`sQnw nUM tYkw qopw nwl qbwh krn, cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swfy vIrw nUM JUty puls mukwbly ivc mwrn cwhy l`K Bwrq vwsI swfIAw BYxw dI iejqw nwl Kyfx Pyr vI swnUM Bwrq vwsI hox qy jrUr mwx hoxw cwhIdw hY[

ikau vIro TIk ikhw nw mY?

mY smJdw hY Agr swnUM Bwrq vwsI hox qy mwx hoxw cwhIdw hY qw auhnW PojIAw vIrw dI bhwdrI krky jo Bwrq dIAW srhMdw dI rwKI krdy hn qy sIny qy golIAw Kwdy hn JUTY qy mwkwr lIfrW leI [ ijhVy vIr BYx 15 Agsq qy 26 jnvrI nUM h`Q ivc qrMgw lY ky AwpxI Bwrq nwl vPw jwhr krdy hn iek p`l leI socx ky Bwrq ny is`KW nwl kInI ko vPw kIqI hY?

dwrw iSkwgo

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

30/01/04

hello sat sri akal 2 all,
I would like to thanks jasbir brar and gurpreet gill germany for nice comments and same time i thanks JOGINDER SANGHRA CANADA KI AASI SIKHA NA INDIAN HI REHNA , THAT IS NICE and i think even we live in western world we must have respect for INDIA .
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON "MOGA"norway

hrjIq isMG hOlYf

30/01/04

dsqwr Aqy is`K

ipAwry Kwlsw jIau ,

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw,
vwihgurU jI kw Pqih [

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SromxI g.p. kmytI ny jrUr sMjIdgI idKweI hY[ vwjpweI srkwr ny vI koeI sMjIdgI nhI idKweI[ jdo koeI knMUn pws ho jWdw hY qW aus nMU qOVnw bhUq hI ijAwdw muSkl ho jWdw hY[Awpxy h`QI Awpxw kwrj Awp svwrIey vwlI g`l hY[Kwlsw Akwl purK kI Poj, Kwlsw pRmwqm kI moj [ies Kwlsy nMU Aqy Kwlsy dI dsqwr nMU dunIAw dI koeI vI qwkq Kqm nhI kr skdI[is`K kOm ny Awpxy h`kw leI lVdy hI rihxw hY Aqy Awpxy h`k lYxy hn[knMUn iv`c rih ky Awpxw jor lwauxw hY Aqy srkwrW nMU d`sxw hY ik AsI Amn psMd SihrI hW[ g`l ie`Qy hI nhI m`uk jWdI[ A`j jdo pUrI kOm idRVqW nwl dsqwr ivroDI knMUn dw ivroD kr rhI hY, aus vkq swfw dsqwr sjwaux vwilAw dw vI ku`J Prj bxdw hY ky AsI dsqwr nMU Srwb pI ky SVkw , p`bw iv`c nw rolIey[ swnMU ieh PYyslw krnw pvygw ik jy AsI gurU goibMd isMG jI mhWrwj vlo bKSI hoeI dsqwr sjwauxI hY qW AsI ies dI pUrI-2 sMBwl krIey[ ies dsqwr dI kImq Ajoky Xu`g iv`c koeI vI nhI qwr skdw[swfw dsqwr pRqI shI sMjIdgI BirAw iehI kdm hovygw ky AsI dsqwr dI Awp Awpxy Awp byAdbI nw krIey Aqy pwqSwh vlo bKSI AimRq dI dwq pRwpq krky sKqI nwl pihrw dyeIey[swnMU ieh pUrI qrW Aihsws hY ik swfy kol rwjsI qwkq dw hoxw vI bhUq jrUrI hY[ AMq iv`c ij`q Kwlsy dI –is`K kOm dI hovygI[

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw ,
vwihgurU jI kI Pqih[

sMpwdk jI Aws hY ky Awp jI Awpxy pypr iv`c shI jgHw dy ky myry ivcwrw nMU pRkwsq krn dI Kycl krogy[dws koeI ilKwrI nhI hY[Agr ku`J ilKidAw glq iliKAw igAw hovy qW sMgq bKSx jog hY[ Bu`lw cu`kw dI iKmw[

is`K kimauintI bYnyluks hrjIq isMG hOlYf

joigMdr sMGyVw knyfw

29/01/04

mYN ikAw jI swirAW nUM siq sRI Akwl !

myrI iek Arz hY myry vIrW nUM, jo iek dy dUjy lyK au`qy jW srlyK au`qy ikMqU-prMqU krdy hn auh shI hY ik Awpxy-Awpxy ivcwr zrUr d`sxy cwhIdy hn[ ijs qrW ivrk jI ny ikMqU-prMqU kIqw hY myry iKAwl nwl qW nhIN l`gdw ik ivrk jI Awpxy Awp nUM ieMfIAn khwauxw cwhuMdy hoxygy[ ieh qW EhI g`l ho geI l`gdI hY ( jy iek ipE dy cwr-pMj pu`qrW iv`coN iek pu`q ru`s ky jW iksy hor vzHw nwl Awpxw ipMf C`f ky Sihr cly jwvy, auQy jw ky Sihr dy ihswb ikqwb nwl rihx l`g pvy, jy aus dy bwkI BYx Brw Awpxy ipE dy jnm idn au`qy jW iksy hor idn au`qy ipE leI idloN kuJ cMgw jW Su`B kwmnwvW krn qy , Eho Sihr vwlw pu`q Awpxy BYx BrwvW nUM khy ik qusIN cMgw nhIN kIqw[ ieQy Swied ru`s ky igAw pu`q ieh Bu`l irhw hovygw ik auh Awp vI qW Esy ipE dw hI pu`q hY[

ivrk jI ipE ny ipE hI rihxw hY[ AwpW ieMfIAn hW, Aqy hr hwlq iv`c ieMfIAn hI rihxw hY, beI swnUM qW is`KW dy Gr jMm ky vI ieMfIAw qy hI mwx hY[ ieMfIAn hox qy mwx hY[ ikauN ky swfw pMjwb swfy ieMfIAw (v`fy Gr dw) hI iek kmrw hY[ ies kmry dI aunw icr hI hoNd hY ijMnw icr ieh aus Gr dw ih`sw hY, vrnw iek`ly kmry iv`c bwhrly pirMidAW dw v`wsw hox l`igAW dyr nhIN l`gdI[ bwkI qusIN qW ^ud kwPI pVHy-ilKy l`gdy ho[

jy,AY`s brwV jI, gurpRIq ig`l jI ruipMdr iF`loN jI qusIN ivrk vI jI nUM bhuq sohxw zvwb iliKAw hY, lyikn ieQy qusIN iqMno vIry vI iek glqI kr gey ho, jy ikqy eyhI zvwb pMjwbI iv`c ilKdy qW sony au`qy suhwgy vwlI g`l hoxI sI[ mYN ieQy knyfw iv`c vI bhuq swry Awpxy pMjwbI bjurgW nUM jwxdw hW jihVy isrP pMjwbI hI pVH skdy hn, jW ieJ kih lE ik auh AwpxI BwSw nwl ipAwr krdy hn ies krky pMjwbI iv`c hI pVHnw psMd krdy hn[ kI AsIN b`cy auhnw bjurgW nUM Awpxy iKAwl pVHn leI nhIN dy skdy? kI swnUM cMgw lgUgw jy swfy bjurg ieMgilS pVHy muMifAW dy qrly krn AMgryzI qoN pMjwbI iv`c qrzmy leI? myry vIrno AsIN bhuq l`kI hW ik 5AwbI fwt kwm ny swnUM dysW-pRdysW iv`c bYiTAW leI mu&q Aqy isr& mu&q AwpxI mW bo`lI iv`c pVHn leI ilKx leI Axmu`lw qohPw id`qw hY[ kI swfw &rz nhIN bxdw ik AsIN 5AwbI fwt kwm ƒ pMjwbI rihx dyeIey? jy koeI bMdw pYrW iv`c kwE boey SU pw ky qyVH qMbw lw lvy au`qy kmIz pw ky tweI lw lvy qW auh iks qrW dw lgygw? ( sO &IsdI jokr ) ies krky myrI Arz hY auhnw ƒ jo Awpxy Awp ƒ pMjwbI khwauNdy hn[ ikrpw swfI mW bo`lI dy rKvwly 5AwbI fwt kwm ƒ jokr nw bxwE[ Awpxw jlUs nw k`Fo[ iek vwr iPr, myry bjurgo Aqy vIirE myrI JolHI ^Yr pw dE, pMjwbI isrP pMjwbI Awpxy 5AwbI fwt kwm leI[

mYN Awp sB dw qih idloN DnvwdI hovWgw
iKmw dw zwck hW
joigMdr sMGyVw knyfw

ruipMdrpwl isMG iF`loN

29/01/04

pRnwm,

mYnMU mw& krnw, mYN self taught hW grumuKI 'c  kyvl swl hoeyAw, i&r myrI il`KI pMjwbI kmzor hY[ pr mYN vlYq 'c j`imAw iqAwr hW, bolI il`Kn leI[ I am ashmed of Punjabi's who I saw at University speaking in English Amonsgt themselves, so I believe this is needed. English was a junglee Language, the sophisticated spoke Latin and French. Now English speakers are laughing. Thus I would ignore commemts about Punbjabi being village language.

iemiqhwn borf v`l myrw qw pUrw sport hYN

ruipMdrpwl isMG iF`loN, vlYqI pMjwbI nwvilst

iek svwl: kI iksy ny A`j qk pMjwbI 'c swAYNi&kSn (Science Fiction, ivigAwnk glp)) dIAW khwxIAW il`KIAW hn?

jsbIr ig`l, jrmnI

29/01/04

HELLO,
I THINK SURINDER VIRK JI HAVE GOT RIGHT ANSWER, BALLE BAI DHILLON NORWAY MOGA WALLAYA, ANY WAY I AM FROM AJITWAL NEAR MOGA ,HERE IN GERMAN , PLS GIVE ME UR PHONE NO.
VIRK JI DONT FEEL SHAME TO BE INDIAN,
FROM
JASBIR GILL, GERMAN

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

29/01/04

HELLO DARA CHICHAGO JI,

I AGREED WITH YOUR YESTERDAYS COMMENTS THAT WE MUST SHOW INTERESTED FOR PUNJABI BOLLI, AND U R RIGHT THAT OUR SIKHS BROTHERS HESITATE TO WISH OTHER SIKH, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS HERE IN NORWAY AND IN MANY PARTS OF EUROPE , NOT ONLY MEXICIANS BUT ALSO MUSLIMS SHOW ATTITITUDE OF RESPECT AND WISH OTHER IF THEY SEEMS THAT HE IS MUSLIM , BUT NOT OUR SIKHS , REGARDING THIS I HAVE WROTE IN READERS LETTERS 2_3 DAYS BACK,
ANY WAY IT IS VERY NICE TO READ YOUR COMMENTS ON 5ABI.COM

prmjIq isMG, svIfn

29/01/04

Dear Sir,
Being a sikh i feel concerned about a PC game named Hitman 2.by EIDOS. PARTS NAMELY TERMINAL HOSPITALITY AND DEATH OF HANNELORE DISPLAY SIKHS AS BODY GAURDS OF A PANDIT TERRORIST WITH RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS AND THE GAME PLAYER SHOOTS THEM. I THINK U AS A NEWSPAPER SHOULD TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

REGARDS
PARAMJIT SINGH
SWEDEN

fw. krnYl isMG cyArmYn, pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU.ky.)

28/01/04

pMjwbI fOt kOm ( 5abi.com) dI smucI imhnqI qy isrVI stwP Aqy fw. bldyv kMdolw swhb nUM auhnW dIAW pMjwbI bolI pRqI vPwdwr syvw Aqy ies v~fI pRwpqI leI pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU U.ky) dy smUh borf Aqy syvwdwrW vloNH Fyr swrIAW idlI mubwrkW [

nwl hI AMimRqw pRIqm jI nUM SRI pdm BUSn snmwn imlx leI pMjwbI bolI nUM ipAwr krn vwly swry pMjwbIAW nUM vDweI [ AMimRqw jI dI ishq TIk nhIN auh kwPI smyN qoN mMjy qy hn [ Aqy AsIN auhnW dI cMgI ishq leI vI kwmnw krdy hW [

fw. krnYl isMG cyArmYn
pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU.ky.)

dwrw iSkwgo, AmrIkw

28/01/04

surieMdr mwhl jI ny pMjwbI mW bolI vwry ilK ky pMjwbIAw dIAw A`KW Kolx dI koSs kIqI hY[ pr mwP krnw mwhl swihb ieh quhwfw K`q pMjwbIAw dIAw A`KW Kolx ivc nw kwmjwb rhygw[ auh ies krky, pMjwbIAw nUM pMjwbI mW bolI bol ky nw qw koeI codr imlxI hY nw koeI srdwrI ies leI auh ies qy jwdw gor nhI krngy[ ikauky auh gurUGr dIAw coxW leI iek dUjy dw isr qw pwV skdy hn pr pMjwbI mW bolI nUM prPu`lq krn leI kuJ nhI kr skdy[ gory Aw swmxy iek dUjy dIAw p`gw qW lwh skdy hn pr pMjwbI ivc g`l nhI kr skdy kihdy hn gory ikqy swnUM AnpV guAwr nw smJ lYx[ dUjy pwsy swfy Sihr c rihx vwly BYx vIr Awpxy b`icAw nwl ihMdI ivc g`l krdy hn qy ikhdy hn ky pMjwbI qw ipMfUAw dI bolI hY[

mY iehQy iek g`l kihxI jrUrI smJdW hW auh ieh hY ky mYnUM mYksIkn lokW qy mWx hY jo AwpxI bolI dI kdr krnw jwxdy hn[ keI mYksIkn lokW nUM AmrIkW ivc rihdy hoey 20 - 20 swl ho gey qy auh hux vI AwpxI bolI nUM nhI Bu`ly[ jdo vI iek dUjy nwl g`l krdy hn qW ApxI mW bolI ivc krdy hn[ qy swfy vIr qW iek dUjy nUM dyK ky mUMh pry kr lYdy hn[

isrkwrI dPqrw ivc keI vyly swfy bolI bolx vwly r`Ky huMdy hn pr swfy vIr auhnw dI vI sihqw lYx dI loV nhI mihsUs krdy coVy ho ky bolxgy mY AMgryjI bol skdw hW cwhy bolxI Awvy jw nw[ mY 11 swl dw sI jdo AmrIkw Aw igAw bhuq AMgryjI ivc bhuq bk- bk kIqI pr nwl nwl pMjwbI bolI nUM ipAwr kIqw qy QOVI buhqI ilKxI is`KI [ mYnUM AwpxI mW bolI jwn qo ipAwrI hY[ bwkI pMjwbI vIrW BYxW nUM vI hoxI cwhIdI hY[

dwrw iSkwgo

hrjIq isMG holYNf

28/01/04

sMpwdk jIau,
vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw,
vwihgurU jI kI Pqih[

mY sweIprs iv`c rihMdy swry vIrW nMU bynqI krdw hW ky hOlYNf Awaux vwsqy eyjMtwN dy Fhy cVH ky Awpxw pYsw nw brbwd kirau [ ho skdw hY ky hr jgHw ienswnw dw soSn krn vwly eyjMt lok hox[ h`QI kMm krky pYsw kmw nhI skdy grIbw dI kmweI hV`p rhy ny[

bgl my CurI muMh my rwm vwlI g`l hY[

mYnMU ieh ies krky ilKnw pY irhw hY ikau ky mY jnvrI dy pihly hPqy PrWs AymbYsI iv`c mYmorMfm dyx krky Kbr ByjI sI qwN myrw Pon nMbr vI 5AwbI au`qy nwl hI l`gw sI [ ies krky mYnMU bhUq Pon sweIprs qO Awaudy hn ky hOlYf iv`c iks qrW styA imldI hY[ hOlYf bhUq hI Cotw ijhw dyS hY[ styA ie`Qy imlxw bhUq ijAwdw muSkl hY[ bwkI hr ie`k dI AwpxI iksmq hY[ quhwfy pYisAw dy nwl iehnW lOkw ny AwpxIAw jmInw KrId leIAw hn qy bVIAw –2 koTIAw pw leIAw hn[ quhwfy pYisAw dy nwl ieh lok AmIrw dI igxqI iv`c Aw gey hn[

ijhVw eyjMtI krdw srkwr dy h`Q l`g jWdw hY ausnMU pqw l`g jWdw hY ky iesdw kI Pl hY[keI qW Awp k`cy hI hn pr nwlidAw dw kUMfw krI jWdy hn[

s`cI g`l krnw swfw pihlw Prj hY pr sMpwdk jI keI vwr qusI sweIt au`pr nhI lwaudy[

Bu`lw cu`kw dI iKmw,

hrjIq isMG holYNf

jsbIr isMG brwV, AwstRIAw

28/01/04

hello,

sat sri akal to all ,

surinder singh virk ji according to me i dont think that all the days are same in sikh religion and many sikhs enjoy by celebrating all festivals some are celebrated by other indian , and personally i think rupinder norway and raj have done no mistake by wishing republic day, rupinder and raj i wish u same and we indian must celebrate our consititutional days when other people from different parts of the worlds celebrate their own, without creed of caste and religion, virk ji rupinder moga and raj have done good jobb and they dont need feel shame for this, besides this  paper is not only for sikhs but for all punjabis .

virk ji realize all the days are not same for sikhs when we read sukhmani sahib and rah ras on different times ,

bye from

jasbir singh brar vienna austria

gurpRIq ig`l, jrmnI

28/01/04

HELLO Surinder virk ji america,

i dont think that rupinder norway and raj bhupinder had committed some crime by wishing republic day, same time i dont agree with u that all the days are same for sikhs, this is not true, besides this 5abi.com is not newspaper only for sikhs , i dont think this is just lifafabaaji, i apperciate raj bhupinder and rupinder moga norway that they have feelings for india , i too love india and many lakhs of sikhs shows same respect for india, and for ur kund information virk ji thousands of sikhs celebrate diwali and dussehra without discremation every year, and was in himachal pradesh in chintpurni , there were as many sikhs in compare to hindus and many with ghatras, so i think rupinder and raj bhupinder have done good jobb virk ji by wishing republicday.
satsri akl
by
Gurpreet Gill
Hannover Germany

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

28/01/04

HELLO SURINDER SINGH VIRK AMERICA,
SAT SRI AKAL JI,

I DONT AGREE WITH YOUR OPINION THAT FOR WE SIKHS ALL THE DAYS ARE SAME ,MAY BE YOUR THINKING IS ANOTHER AND I HAVE WISHED REPUBLIC DAYS TO ALL VIEWERS OF 5.ABI.COM NOT ONE SPECIAL COMMUNITY AND ALL OF ALL THEY ARE NOT ONLY SIKHS BUT ALSO PUNJABI HINDU , CHRISTIANS , MUSLIMS SOME READ THIS NEWSPAPER.

ACCORDING TO ME ALL THE DAYS ARE NOT SAME , WHY SIKHS BROTHERS CELEBRATE OUR GURUS GURPARBH JUST ON DECIDED DATES NOT EVERY DAY IN THE YEAR WHEN WE SIKHS FEEL THAT ALL THE DAYS ARE SAME FOR US, WHY MOST OF THE SIKHS LIVING ABROAD AND IN INDIA CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS OF THEIR CHILDRENS ONLY ONE DAY IN THE YEAR , INSTEAD FOR CELEBRATING WHOLE YEAR , THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES LIKE THIS.

MANY OF THE OUR SIKHS BROTHERS SOME GET MARRIED WITH INDIAN ORIGIN GIRLS LIVING ABROAD PRESENTS MARRIEGE CERTIFICATE IN THE EMBASSY TO SHOW THEM THAT THEY GOT MARRIED WITH PARTICULAR GIRL LIVING ABROAD AND TO GET THIS MARRIEGE CERTIFICATE THEY ACCEPT THAT THEY HAVE GOT MARRIED ACCORDING TO HINDU MARRIEGE ACT , WHY NONE OF SIKHS SAY THAT THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS CRITARIER AND JUST DENIED TO ACCEPT THIS , NO BODY SAYS BUT THEY JUST ACCEPT , WHY,

ALL THE SIKHS ARE NOT SAME AND I DONT THINK THAT I HAVE TO SAY SORRY FOR THAT I WISHED HAPPY REPUBLIC DAY TO ALL 5ABI,COM VIEWERS , I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY COUNTRY AND I AM PROUD TO BE INDIAN SIKH AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR MY COUNTRY INDIA, IT IS GREAT TO WISH HAPPY REPUBLIC DAY , SOME THEY ACCEPTS THESE GREETINGS ARE OK AND SOME THEY WHO DONT IT IS UP TO THEM, THEY ARE JUST FEW THOUSANDS SIKHS SOME ARE POISONING MINDS OF INDIAN SIKHS AGAINGT INDIAN GOVERNMENT , BUT I THINK THEY WILL NEVER SUCCEED , FOR NEW GENERATION IT IS GREAT TO BE KNOW THEM INDIAN EITHER THEY ARE SIKHS OR HINDUS, BESIDES THIS MANY SIKHS ARE PARTICIPATING IN REPUBLICDAYS MARCH ON RAJPATH IN NEWDELHI AND MANY ARE CELEBRATING REPUBLIC DAY IN THE EMBASSIES IN FOREIGN.

SO SURINDER VIRK JI I WILL NOT SAY SORRY FOR THAT WHAT I WROTE YESTERDAY, I AM PROUD TO BE INDIAN SIKH.

SAT SRI AKAL
FROM
RUPINDER SINGH DHILLON"MOGA" NORWAY

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

27/01/04

vIr suirMdr mwhl ny iek vwr Pyr pMjwbI vrqx dI g`l qorI hY[ aunHW ny keI mu`dy CyVy hn pr ies vkq mYN isr& iek hI mu`dy qy g`l krWgw qy auh hY pMjwbI tweIipMg[ myrI jwcy ieh iblkul vI AOKI nhIN hY[ ijhVy s`jx iJjkdy hn, myrw iKAwl hY ik aunHW kdI pMjwbI tweIipMg dI koiSS vI nhIN kIqI hovygI[ ijvyN ik pihlW hI keI vwr ieh ivcwirAw igAw hY ik A`j dy idn pMjwbI tweIipMg vwsqy do qrHW dy kI-borf iesqymwl ho rhy hn[ iek hY “rYimMgtn” jo ik hwly q`k nw mYN is`iKAw hY qy nw hI is`Kxw hY[ dUjw kI-borf joik mYN vrqdw hW, auh hY “PonYitk”[ ieh auh kI-borf hY ijs iv`c AMgryzI dI ‘ky’ qy k`kw hY qy ‘j’y qy j`jw[ QoVw bhuq Prk kI-mYp vyK ky smJ Aw jWdw hY[ ijMnI ku PurqI myrI AMgryzI tweIipMg dI hY EnI ku hI pMjwbI tweIipMg dI hY[ loV hY isrP SurUAwq krx dI[

DMnvwd sihq

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

suirMdrpwl ivrk, AmrIkw

27/01/04

Dear S. Raj Bhupinder Singh and
Rupinder Singh Moga Norway ji,

I am surprised to see a new occasion for Sikhs to wish each other Happy Republic Day. (iek il&w&y bwzI). I have not heard any Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Bengalis, South Indians, or even Gujratis wishing each other a Happy Republic day.

I believe, for a Sikh all the days of the year are the same.

And since all those who left India, for greener pastures, it was because the country ( due to corruption and BweI BqIjw vwd) did not hold any more promise for them ( or any one else who has left it). We will all be lying, to be wishing something meaningless, a mere display of hollow patriotism.

Specially Sikhs who are dis-owning Dussehra, Diwali, Holi, Janma Ashtmi , Rakhi etc, when did they begin to consider 'Republic-day' a well wishing day?

Is it really a red letter day for Sikhs, after whatever you folks have gone thru in 1984?

Please don't tell me, to forgive and forget. These scars will remain fresh for centuries, similar to MIR MANOO's reign of terror.

Are your memories so short lived?

jy qusIN is`KI srUp ivc ieMfIAw dw s&r kro, qd quhwnUM mihsUs hovygw, ikMnW ku quhwfw Awdr huMdY[ quhwnUM vyKidAW hI AiDkwrIAW dy Brv`ty auqWh cVH jWdy ny[

.................

Surinderpal Virk USA.

suirMdr mwhl, brqwnIAw

27/01/04

AsIN kdoN smJWgy ? ??

" ikMnw cMgw huMdw ik srdwr kulbIr isMG Syrig`l huxI jo Awpxy ivcwr ilK ky Byjy hn jy ikqy pMjwbI iv`c ilK ky Byjdy……"[

ikMnI qrsmeI jodVI sI joigMdr sMGyVw jI dy qyeI jnvrI dy ^q iv~c[ iksy qy Asr hoieAw ? iksy ny iDAwn id~qw ? swfy PRWsIsI vIr muslmwnW dy eyky qoN bVy pRBwivq ny qy pMjwbIAW, Kws krky is~KW, dy vqIry qoN nw KuS[ pihlI g~l qW ieh nIN smJ AwauNdI ik AsIN pMjwbI bolI nUMM isrP is~KW jW is~KI q~k hI sImq (mihdUd) ikEN kr lYNdy hW ?

myry suihrd qy mwx m~qy hmvqnIEN ! qusIN jrmn, rUsI, PRYNc, f~c, spYinS qy hor pqw nI ikhVI ikhVI bolI is~K leI hY pr AwpxI mW bolI pMjwbI nUM zrUr ivswr rhy hW [ Awi^r ikEN? kI mzbUrI hY? kI AsIN izAwdw hI Awrwm psMd ho gey hW ? jW pMjwbI qoN nPrq jhI ho geI hY ? jW AsIN AMgryzI 'c ilK skxw tOhr smJdy hW ?

hr pMjwbI nUM mwx hoxw cwhIdY ik aunHW dI AwpxI mwdrI zubwn iv~c vI ieMtrnY~t dI ie~k srgrm QW (sweIt) hY[ pr swfy keI vIr ies nUM vI gMDlw krn dI inrMqr koiSS iv~c hn[ r~b dy vwsqy koeI ie~k QW qW rihx idE ij~Qy pMjwbI bolI KulH ky pMjwbI hvw 'c s~uK dw swh lY sky[ ikEN ies dw gLw Gu~t rhy ho ?

AsIN Awpxy b~icAW nUM rozwnw qwVnw krdy hW, vwr vwr tokdy hW ik Gr 'c qW pMjwbI boilAw kro, swnUM pqY bwhr qW nhIN srdw[ Kws kr hPqy dy A^Ir 'c qW ieh pwbMdI vWg Awied (lwgU) hY [ pr swfy siqkwr Xog v~fy kI kr rhy hn? Aksr ieh Aihd ikvyN lwgU ho sky? s~B qoN pihlW iesdw kwrn l~Bxw pvygw ik kI pMjwbI ilKxI bhuq hI muSikl hY ? hY qW ikEN ? mYN quhwfw iDAwn Apxy C~bI nvMbr dy ^q v~l iljwxw cwhuMdw hW ijs iv~c mY pMjwbI dy A~KrW dI g~l cox dI kIqI sI [ ijs vwry ku~J ku sUJvwn pMjwbIAW dy kImqI suJwvW nwl pRqIkrm vI Cpy sn[

g~l sI isrP cox krn dI ik ikhVw A~Kr (PONt) vriqAw jwvy jo sB leI sOKw hovy[ pr g~l aus qoN A~gy nw qurI[ vIr suKijMdr AcwrIAw jI ny myry vloN suJwey A~KrW (gurbwxI klmI) vwry qW ie~QoN q~k ilK id~qw "ijdF isMGF ny mhwjLbI jLnUMn ivc BolIBflI pMjfbI df nF gurmuKI rwK idqf ijs dy PlsrUp pMjfb nUM ipCly do dhfky rwj ky jLnUMnI sMqfp Bogxf ipaf]"

pr ie~Qy mYN spSt kr idAW ik mYN ieh cox nwm krky iblkul nhIN sI kIqI [ isrP guxW qy sOK krky kIqI sI[ hux qusIN dyKogy ik SRI AcwrIAw jI dy ivcwr pVHn leI quhwnUM ienHW SbdW, jo ik fI.Awr.cwiqRk A~KrW 'c hn, nUM Anmol il~pI jW gurbwxI klmI 'c qbdIl (knvrt) krnw pvygw[ …qy mYN bynqI krW ik swry pwTk jn Anmol il~pI jW gurbwxI klmI A~Kr hI vrqx qW swry AwswnI nwl pVH skxgy [ iesdI ie~k imswl hor vI hY " ies vyr dy XqnF leI suirMdr mfhl, pMjfbI akfdmI lYWstr aqy gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inAUËIlYNz dy Xqn prsLMsfXog hn. so KusLI dI gwl hY. ies muwdy AuWqy ijqnI vI soc ivcfr ho sky Auh QoVHI hY. qF hI iksy nqIjy dy nyVy qyVy phuMicaf jf skdf hY." ieh ivcwr sn s.ikRpwl isMG jI pMnUM trMto vwilAW dy [ iehnW nUM pVHn 'c vI Swied keI pwTkW nUM muSkl Awvy [

^Yr ! ies vwry qW mYN ie~k vwr Pyr gurqyj jI qy pMnUM swhb nUM bynqI krWgw ik crcw CyVn ik ikhVw A~Kr vrqx leI TIk hY qy ikEN ? vYsy Agly ^q 'c mYN aunHW vloN suJwey A~KrW vwry pRqIkrm idAWgw [ mYN Avyslw nhIN sW hoieAw nw hI cu~p sW pr vwc irhw sW ik kOx kI kr qy soc irhw hY [ ies vwr dy ivcwrW nUM mGwaux leI mYN Awpxy Awp nUM sMGyVw jI dw hI irxIN smJdw hW [

jd mYN ip~Cy muVky q~kdW hW qW jgjIq sMDU (XU.AY~s.ey) dI Awvwz kMnIN pYNdI hY ………" qy iPr jd gurimMdr jI dy lyK "nw myry b`ciVE ! nw !" vrgIAW ivlkVHIAW pVH sux ky pMjwb dw A~j qy Blk swhmxy id~sdw hY qW klyzy iv~coN ie~k lyr ijhI inkldI hY - hwey r~bw! nw, ieMj n krIN!! qyrI AYfI v~fI zmIn qy swfw Cotw ijhw pMjwb…vwsqw eI kdy iesdy dirAwvW coN pwxI n su~ky……iehdy pu~qW DIAW dy idlW coN pMjwbI mW dw moh nw cu~ky….qy bwlW dIAW qoqlIAW zubwnW qoN pMjwbI bolI dw Sihd n mu~ky!"

ienHW hI qrilAW qy hwiVHAW dI AwV iv~c qy hwl hI iv~c Cpy ^qW v~lH vyK ky mYN ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy, A n s mWgt, pirqpwl isMG ibMdrw, SmSyr isMG Kwlsw hOlYNf, kulbIr isMG Syrig`l, knyfw, bljIq isMG G`umx knyfw, AmrIk isMG PrWs, s s Bu`lr, swQI luiDAwxvI lMfn, jnmyjw jOhl luiDAwxw vwilAW nUM bynqI krWgw ik A~goN qoN auh pMjwbI 'c ilKx nhIN ApxI mzbUrI zrUr d~sx qW ik pwTk shI PYslw lY skx[ ieh AKwx kdy nIN Bu~lxw cwhIdw ik AiBAws hI p~k pkwauNdw hY - (pRYkits myks prPYkt - jW koeI pwTk Fu~kvW muhwvrw sJwaux) swnUM koeI muSikl Awvy qW iek~Ty bYT ky h~l krn iv~c, ku~J d~sx pu~Cx iv~c iJjk mihsUs nhIN krnI cwhIdI[ nhIN qW AsIN bhuq swrI kImqI jxkwrI qoN vWJy Aqy dUjIAW kOmW qoN bhuq ip~Cy rih jwvWgy [

jdoN kdy vI ryfIE pRogrwm pyS kridAW ihMdI PurmwieSI gwxw lwaux dI koiSS kIqI geI audoN hI sroiqAw vloN Xwd krwieAw jWdw sI ik ieh pMjwbI pRogrwm hY nw ik ihMdI jW AMgryzI[ kI au~Qy ieh suJwA Fu~kvW ho skdw sI ik beI ryfIE bMd kr ilE ihMdI gIq Aw iehY !

srkwrI kMm kwj pMjwbI 'c krwaux leI AsIN pMjwb srkwr qy ikvyN dbwA pw skdy hW jd AsIN ^ud Xqn nhIN krdy[ AwE sMBlIey ! nhIN qW Awaux vwlI pIVHI swnUM kdy mwP nhIN krygI jo mqryieAw ivvhwr AsIN A~j AwpxI mW bolI nwl kr rhy hW[ swnMU bwbU iProz dIn SrP dIAW ieh sqrW swnUM hmySw hlUx hlUx ky pMjwbI bolI dI Awqmw dI hUk swfy boLy ho gey kMnW q~k phuMcwax dw Xqn krdIAW rihxgIAW :-

"SrP pweI nw ijnHW ny kdr myrI, vy mYN bolI hW auhnW pMjwbIAW dI "

AsIN kdoN smJWgy mW bolI pRqI Awpxw Prz ? AsIN kdoN smJWgy AwpxI hI mW bolI nUM mwrIAW kwnIAW dw drd ? AsIN kdoN smJWgy fw.gurimMdr is~DU rwhIN bolI dI pIVq vydnw ?
Ajy vI vylw hY ik sMBl jweIey [

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

26/01/04

HELLO,

IT WAS NICE TO READ GOOD STOFF BY PRITPAL SINGH BINDRA FROM FRANCE REGARDING MUSLIM CULTURE AND ABOUT HIJABB, THIS IS TRUE NOW MUSLIMS POPULATION IS DAY BY DAY INCREASING IN EUROPE AND EVERY WHERE,SPECIALLY AFTER THE BREAK OF UNITED YUGOSLAVIA AND REALLY MUSLIMS COOPERATE WITH OTHER MUSLIMS AS I HAVE EXPERIENCED.

SAME TIME IT IS NOT STRANGE TO HEAR THAT ONE FRANCE OFFICIAL MAN WAS SURPRISED TO KNOW ARE SIKHS LIVING IN FRANCE, SIKHS ARE EVERY WHERE BUT IN SMALL NUMBER, ANOTHER THING BINDRA JI SIKHS DONOT COOPERATE WITH THEIR OWN SIKH BROTHERS AND AS I EXPERIENCED MANY OF THEM HASITATE TO SAY SAT SRI AKAL AND SEE WITH VERY STRANGE EYES , BUT THIS IS NOT IN MUSLIM COMMUNITY, EVEN I DONT WEAR TURBAN BUT I USE TO SAY SAT SRI AKL IF I SEE SIKH IN TURBAN OR I KNOW HE IS FROM INDIA, BUT MANY OF SIKHS DONOT LIKE TO WISH ANOTHER SIKH

HERE IN NORWAY AS EVERY WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO DISTINGUISH WHO IS FROM INDIAN PUNJAB OR WHO IS FROM PAKISTAN PUNJAB IF SOME ONE IS WITHOUT TURBAN COX OF OUR PUNJABI LANGUAGE , HERE MANY TIMES I HAVE EXPERIECED THAT PAKISTANI WISH HELLO TO SAME COLOUR PERSON THINKING OF THAT MAY BE HE IS FROM PAKISTAN AND HUNDRED TIMES I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN OSLO /DRAMMEN THAT THEY USE TO SAY HELLO TO US , BUT NOT OUR INDIAN BROTHERS MAINLY SIKHS ,

SO I THINK SO THAT OUR SIKHS BROTHERS MUST ALSO REMEBER OUR CULTURE AND TRADITION AS MUSLIMS DO,

THANKS BINDRA JI (FRANCE) FOR NICE LETTER AND WISH ALL READRES HAPPY REPUBLICIAN DAY(26 JAN)
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON "MOGA" NORWAY

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

25/01/04

swry 5AwbI.kwm dy pwTkW nUM 26 jnvrI dy SuB mOky qy l`K l`K vDweI hovy jI .........[

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq [

A n s mWgt

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25/01/04

Gur fateh ,

This is very nice feature and the need of the time when people are diverting towards the Keertan on Film tunes .We must bring a revovultion in this respect so that the real impact of Gurbani on the universe is felt .Your selection of Ragis and the Shabads is wonderful .

adsmangat

pirqpwl isMG ibMdrw, PrWs

25/01/04

Pritpal Singh Bindra writes from Paris, France
Muslim in France

The question is, "Is France really worried about getting swamped by other cultures by losing its secularity or is it just a political gambit? In recent years a great number of immigrants from Muslim countries had been coming to France and settling here. Of course the incoming people were bringing their religion and cultural values with them but they were not promoting as much as the immigrants in Britain. The integration of new comers into the main stream has been much greater in France in comparison to UK.

In spite of this, National Front, the right wing party of LePen wanted to cash on this point. They flaunted the fact of Muslim culture affecting the secular image of France and they started to gain the sympathy and cooperation of lay French masses. Conservative Government of Chirac has to do something to combat and impress upon the people that they are equally keen to preserve the secularity of this country.

Banning of Hijab is just a political stunt by the current Government otherwise there was not much acrimony surfacing and visible. I have three granddaughters in different grades of the schools. The younger ones told that there were Muslim girls in their classes but none of them covered their heads and they participated in the games and other activities as much as the others. The older one said that there was only one girl in her class who wore Hijab but that too very liberally; she took that off frequently especially when taking part in class and sport activities. I have been here, in France, now for the last five weeks. Every week, more than once, I visited the shopping Malls, especially at Christmas time when those places are teaming with shoppers. The number of ladies with headdresses, I came across, could be counted on the fingers of one hand. Just about seven km from the place where I am staying, there is a big number of flats and most of them are occupied by the immigrants from Muslim countries. Even in the shops around that area, the number of females supporting Hijab was quite minimal.

Since the beginning of seventies, we have been visiting Europe frequently and every time passed through France. Whereas racial slurs were very common in UK, we always found very amicable relations here among various races. The game 'petanque' is very common, especially during summer times. While travelling around we seldom found the people of just one race participating in the game, always mixed crowd. Most of all the police, we came across, has as many brown and black faces as the white. In the campsites where we stayed, we never faced any discriminatory attitude. Even in Barbes area of Paris, which is known as the Arabs sector, the number of covered heads was quite minimal. Fusion of races is so good there, that, until I was told, I could not guess it was the area full of people from Arabian countries (their complexion is not much different and the language; we did not know the both sides). The number of Asians, Asian Restaurants and Asian Stores there is not less either, as well. In spite of all this amicability, why then, this sudden eruption of the problem of Hijab?

As commented by a reporter in the media, the cordial relationship of Diaspora with the indigenous population hindered National Front Party of LePen's aspiration to gain popularity. It is said that National Front, through their hirelings in the immigrant community, enhanced the use of Hijab. This commenced to instigate the French people to start talking against the Muslims. NF was now getting upper hand on ruling Government. More the Muslim supported Hijab, more the people diverted their attentions towards LePen. Chirac has to take some steps to ward off this propaganda. Theory of SWAMP of UK's Enoch Powel was coming into action. Chirac found the easy way to win back by putting ban on the use of Hijab. Enouch Powel has been downtrodden, what would be the fate of LePen? The rest of the articles, Skullcap and size of Cross, are just cosmetic issues.

And regarding turban, the official never realised its existence even. It is said there are 5,000 Sikhs in France but how many are supporting turban to make it visible in France. During the last five weeks I have been going round the shops and roaming around the big, very big Mall  very frequently, only once my wife came across a Sikh. "An official at the Ministry of National Education, which is responsible for negotiating the law with Parliament, declined to comment, except to say, 'What? There are Sikhs in France?' A senior official at the Ministry of Interior responsible for religious matters said, ' I know nothing about the Sikh problem. Are there many Sikh in France.'" (The New York Times as reported in LeMonde dated January 18/19) It is learnt that Turban problem is going be treated as a special case and the authorities would relax if the use of turban is 'discrete.' What would be the criteria of 'discrete'?
And how paradoxical it is: in Tunisia, a Muslim country, the girls in the schools are not allowed to put Hijab and, perhaps, same goes for Turkey.

Pritpal Singh Bindra
Camp Paris, France

siqnwm isMG

24/01/04

ieh Kbr jo jyl ivcoN B~jy nOjuAwnW dI AweI hY, ies nUM jy S~k dI njr nwl dyiKAw jwvy qW ieMj vI ho skdw hY ky srkwr ny Awp hI iehnW nOjuAwnW nUM ieDr auDr kr idqw hovy [ ieh Kbr srkwr dI Awp hI PYlweI hoeI lgdI hY ky iqMny isMG jyl qoV ky Prwr ho gey hn[ Awaux vwly idnW iv~c iehnW nOjuAnW dw JUTw pulIs mukwblw bxw ky mwrn dI Kbr vI Aw skdI hY, kI s~c hY qy kI JUT, ieh qW smw hI d~sy gw[ ieMnI krVI sur~iKAw ivcoN B~j jwxw nw mumkn kMm hY[ ieh qW srkwr dI c~lI hoeI cwl lgdI hY[

siqnwm isMG

SmSyr isMG Kwlsw, hOlYNf

24/01/04

Guru Pyare Sadh Sangat jio
Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ke fateh

I have read lot about this jail accident in lot of mails  and in newpapers but i am still surprise to hear that how can 4 people can  run away from so much security system.This type of accidents we have read from last 19 years lot of time and then govt always make a commission to do  enquiry also and after a while it become a old news for us and people forget about it and start looking for lastest news again. I have also heard that human rights org was supposed to  get in touch with all jails to see the security system in coming days so it can be a false story made by media to keep the people of human rights org
away from checking the situation of jails and life of people living in such jails.

Truth will comes anyway out soon and we will hear it also.Bhul chuk di khima.
Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ke fateh

Shamsher Singh Khalsa(Holland)

joigMdr sMGyVw, knyfw

23/01/04

ikMnw cMgw huMdw ik jy srdwr kulbIr isMG Syrig`l huxI jo Awpxy ivcwr ilK ky Byjy hn jy ikqy pMjwbI iv`c ilK ky Byjdy[

vYsy srdwr swihb huxw ny neIAr jI dw srlyK qW pMjwbI iv`c hI piVHAw hoxw hY pr iPr vI zvwbI iKAwl ieMgilS iv`c? mYN pihlW vI Arz kIqI sI ik jy AsIN Awpxy pMjwb jW Awpxy vqn vwry Awpxy pMjwbI BrwvW dy rU-brUh kuJ Awpxy iKAwl pyS krnw hI cwhuMdy hW qW pMjwbI iv`c ikauN nhIN? Awpxy Awp, AwpxI mW bo`lI dy jy pihdwr nhIN bxw skdy qW ikrpw krky AwpxI ieMgilS dy lyK AMgryzW dIAw A^bwrW c' hI CupwE[ myry iKAwl nwl pMjwb iv`c bhuq swry myry vIr-BYxw hn jo ies AKbwr ? ies sweIt qoN pVHdy hoxgy, ho skdw hY myry vWgU Eh vI quhwfI ieMgilS nw pVH skdy hox[ mYN ies g`l dI auhnw swirAW qoN muAwPI cwhWgw ijMnw  myry ies ieqrwz nwl Tys phuMcI hovygI[

mYN Awpxy iKAwl Byj id`qy hn A`gy r`b rw`Kw[

joigMdr sMGyVw

kulbIr isMG Syrig`l, knyfw

23/01/04

I don't think that doubt is the main problem between India and Pakistan as Mr.. Kuldeep Nayer described in his article.

Main problem between India and Pakistan is the ego. Both countries had tried to view the Kashmir issue by their own way. Both ignores each others. No one see the issue by the other way. Both build the military power to solve this issue by the muscles. After the attack on Indian parliament India thinks that he can solve this problem once and now with force. After keeping the forces on border for months India realized that he can not solve this by force because pakistan is not the same as it was in bangladesh war time. His military muscle are now different. On the other hand Pakistan also realized that military muscles are just to show and not to solve the Kashmir issue. It can only be solved by mutual understanding and negotiations. So Pakistan got what he was trying to get to bring India on the table not on the battle field. Both country knows that no one can win the war if the war broke out.

India now realize that the Kashmir issue is an issue that remains unsolved and must be solved with no matter what, because Pakistan is not going to let it down at any way and at any cost. Kashmir issue has eaten everything in both countries i.e. economy and relations. The main reason for india to solve this issue is that he wants to attract the foreign investment and trying to compete with China. Without solving the Kashmir issue peace can not prevail in this region and without peace investors can not come. They go directly to China.

America is interested to solve this issue because he wants India to come on his side and China is on the top of his list after Soviet Union. So he is pushing Pakistan to be reluctant on the Kashmir. If America succeed in resolving the Kashmir issue India definitely curve towards America. India also seeking permanent membership in the United Nation for which America is not agreed at this time . So both countries have their own agendas. If the Kashmir problem is solved India Pakistan and America will solve their own problems.

Ego of the both countries will go by force not by choice. Both countries are at their knees to solve this issue. Both have learned their lessons and now both showing these signs.

Kulbir Singh Shergill
Calgary
Canada

pRo. pRIqm isMG gryvwl

22/01/04

sMpwdk swihb,

s.hrpwl isMG vloN gurbwxI vIcwr bwry kIqy svwlwN dy auqR ivc keI ivdvwn lyKkW ny EhnW dI SMkw dUr krn dI FukvIN koiSS kIqI hY jo ik hornW pwTkW leI vI muPId hY[ Drm sbMDI svwl/SMky socvwn ivAkqI dy mn ivc pYdw hoxy kudrqI hn qy EhnW dw h`l Kojxw kuJ is`Kx qy rUhwnI ivkws leI lwzmI kdm hY[

myrI sIimq jwxkwrI Anuswr gurbwxI jW iksy vI iPlwsPI/vIcwrW nUM smJ skx leI auhnW dy smucy Bwv nUM, nw ik pMkqIAW jW vwkMSW nUM inKyV ky, muK r`Kxw pihlI loV hY[

dUjI lwzmI zrUrq hY ik vIcwr ADIn Sbd jW tUkW dy isrP lPzI mwAn (iltrl mIinMg) qIk hI sIimq nw rih ky EhnW dy q`q jW AMqRIv Bwv nUM KoijAw jwvy[ lPz qW vIcwrW dw bwhrlw pihrwvw mwqR huMdy hn[

so, iksy ilKy, pVHy jW suxy lPzW duAwrw pRgt kIqy Bwv qIk A`pVnw kwPI idmwgI imhnq loVdw hY[ Pyr, hr ivA`kqI dw nzrIAw jW idRStIkox ausdy injI qjribAW coN sMicq kIqy igAwn dw nqIjw huMdw hY[ AsIN nvyN igAwn/qjrby dy snmuK Awpxy injI nzrIey smyq pyS huMdy hW[ qdy hI hr bMdy dI nvyN vIcwr gRihx krn dI qIbRqw Aqy Xogqw iekswr nhIN huMdI[

imswl leI hyT ilKIAW qukW nUM slok nwloNN inKyV ky iehnW dI vrqoN keI vwr kyvl duinAwvI ADogqI dw iezhwr krn leI kIqI jWdI hY:

"jy jIvY piq lQI jwie]sBu hrwm jyqw ikCu Kwie]"

pr slok dy AMdr iehnW dw Bwv nwm-ivhUxy lokW dy pqhIx jIvn qoN hY[ pihlI g`l, AiDAwqmk qOr qy jIvq auhI lok hn ijnHW dy mn ivc pRmwqmw dw nwm visAw hoieAw hY[ dUjy, jy Eh nwm ismrn bgYr jINdy hn qd EhnW dI hwlq aupRokq pMgqIAW vwlI hY[ qukW dw smUh ieh hY:

"so jIivAw ijsu min visAw soie]nwnk Avru n jIvY koie]
jy jIvY piq lQI jwie]sBu hrwm jyqw ikCu Kwie]"

slok dI AMqlI quk iesdy q`q nUM hor spSt krdI hY: "ivxu nwvY piq gieAw gvwie]"

eydW hI tYkst coN Al`g kr ky "ncxu kudxu mn kw cwau]" pMgqI nUM myilAW, Kyf-qmwiSAW Awid dy mhqv leI vrq ilAw jWdw hY jd ik eyQy kyvl n`cx, t`px, gwaux nwl r`b nUM rIJwaux dy jqnW nUM bykwr disAw igAw hY[ pr jy pUry slok dw Bwv smiJAw jwvy qW ies dy ArMB qoN hI swP ho jWdw hY ik AiDAwqmk mwrg ivc ncxu kudxu Awid swDn bykwr hn:

"vwien cyly ncix gur]pYr ihlwiein Pyrin isir]" pRmwqmw dw pRym (Bwau) qW ausdy Bau AMdr rihx vwly mnW ivc hI aupjdw hY[ "nwnk ijin mn Bau iqnW min Bwau]"

iesy qrHW, myrI sIimq smJ Anuswr "sYl pQr mih jMq aupwey" dw Bwv iehI hY ik durgm prbqW, p`QrW vwly KyqRW ivc vI sBnW jIAW kw dwqw ny jIv pYdw kr ky aunHW dy irzk dw pRbMD kIqw hoieAw hY[ vwihgurU dI ADBuq kudrq dI hor imswl gurU jI kUMjW dw b`icAW nUM ipCy C`f ky AnykW kosW auf jwxw idMdy hn[ q`q swr ies quk AMdr hY:

"isir isir irjku sMbwhy Twkuru kwhy min Bau kirAw]"

Aijhy hI vIcwr dI soJI swnUM gurU AMgd swihb dy ies slok qoN imldI hY:

"nwnk icMqw mq krhu icMqw iqs hI hyie]jl mih jMq aupwien iqnW iB rojI dyie]

jy AsIN 'sUky kwst hirAw' dw lPzI ArQ leIey qW ieh sMBv nhIN jwpdw ik su`kw kwT hrw ho jWdw hY[

"pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws" nwl SurU hox vwlI jpujI dI pauVI dw smucw Bwv kwdr dI kudrq dI AnMnqw hY, jo ienswnI phMuc qoN bwhr hY[ r`b dI vf`qx A`gy mnuK dI sIimq smJ drsw ky ies pauVI dI A^IrlI quk idRVwauNdI hY ik AwpxI vifAweI nUM auh Awp hI jwxdw hY:

"nwnk vfw AwKIAY AwpY jwxy Awp]"

pRo. pRIqm isMG gryvwl

AmrjIq kOr

22/01/04

vIr hrpwl isMG jI dy svwlW dw jvwb kuJ ku vIrW ny bVw sohxw dyx dw Xqn kIqw hY [vIr hrpwl isMG jI ie~k jigAwsU prwxI hn jo ik ie~k isiKAwrQI dw pihlw gux hY [myry Anuswr auhnW ny koeI SMkw nhIN prgtwieAw blik kuJ jwnx dI ie~Cw kIqI hY[ vIr jIE, pqwl dw Bwv hY DrqI dy hyTW Aqy AkwS qoN BWv hY DrqI dy aupr[ ie~k DrqI ie~k pqwl Aqy ie~k AkwS r~KdI hY so l~KW DrqIAW l~KW pqwl Aqy l~KW AkwS r~KxgIAW[

swieMs dy muqwbk bnspqI vI ijMdw cIj hY [so p~QrIlI QW qy vI bnspqI au~gI hoeI Awm pweI jWdI hY so ieh vI ie~k jMq hI hoeI[Awm qOr qy p~QrW iv~c keI kIVy mkOVy Awm hI pwey jWdy, auhnW dI rojI dw prbMD vI asy qrHW kIqw hoieAw hY ijvyN jl iv~c jMq aupw ky auhnw dI Kurwk dw prbMD kIqw hoieAw hY [ies qoN ibnW gurbwxI dy muqwbk p~Qr vI ie~k jUn hY dyKx iv~c AwNaudw hY ik p~QrW dIAW AnykW hI SklW pweIAW jWdIAW hn Aqy AnykW hI Awkwr[ieh Awkwr bhuq hI DImI gqI nwl ivkws krdy hn[kImqI hIry jvwhrwq vI iehnW p~QrW dy prvwr nwl hI sbMD rKdy hn[so jy ieh jUn hY qW iPr ies iv~c ibnW S~k jMq vI hoxgy[BwvyN ik iehnW p~QrW iv~c jIvn dI gqI dyKxI bhuq muSkl hY [ijvyN bhuq swry Aijhy jIv hn ijhnW nUM KurdbIn qoN ibnW nhIN dyiKAw jw skdw pr hoNd qW r~Kdy hI hn[TIk iesy qrW pQrW dI jIvx gqI hY ijs nUM smJx vwsqy Awqm igAwnI hoxw pYNdw hY[Awm bMdw qW bnspqI nUM vI inrjIv hI smJdw hY jdoN ik Awqm drSI ies q~Q qoN BlI BWq vwkP hY[ikauNik aus dI bu~DI KurdbIn dI qrHW iq~KI Aqy dUrbIn dI qrHW dUr drSI huMdI hY[

rUp is~DU

21/01/04

mwxXog sMpwdk Aqy pwTk swihbwn,

pihlW hrpwl isMG svIfn jI dw p`qr Aqy iPr ausdy juAwb iv~c hrvIr isMG BMvr, hrjIq isMG hOlYNf Aqy gurqyj isMG jI vloN ilKy p`qr pVy[ vYsy iehnW ivdvwnW vloN id`qIAW dlIlW nwl hrpwl jI hurW dy nUM loVIdw juAwb qW iml hI igAw hY pr iPr vI Agr iksy ijAwdw Ajoky (swieMs pRymI) ienswn nUM gurbwxI aupr SrDw Aqy ivSvwS vwlw inXm rws nw Awvy qW hyT ilKy muqwibk soc ky dyKy:

pwqwlw pwqwl lK , Awgws Awgws ]

A`j k`l ieh g`l qW Awm bMdw hI jwxdw hY ik swieMsdwn cMd dI DrqI aupr qW jw Awey hn Aqy hux mMgl dI DrqI aupr jwx dy auprwly vI ho rhy hn[ ieQoN q`k ik mMgl dI DrqI aupr vI ku`J ienswn vWJy (unmanned) imSn Byjy vI jw cu`ky hn[ swieMsdwn qW ieh vI aumId r`Kdy hn ik ho skdw hY ik mMgl dI DrqI aupr jIvn dy Awswr vI hox[ iesy qrW hI bwkI gRYhW bwry vI jwnx dI koiSS kIqI jw rhI hY[ ieh g`l swfy ies sUrj mMfl dI hY[ Agr swfy iek sUrj mMfl iv`c hI ieh keI DrqIAW hn qW sMpUrx bRhmMf iv~c qW pqw nhI ikMny ku sUrj mMfl Aqy ikMnIAW ku DrqIAW hoxgIAW? ies qrW l`KW hI DrqIAW hoxw koeI AsMBv g`l nhI hY[ Agr l`KW DrqIAW ho skdIAW hn qW iPr l`KW AwkwS ikauN nhI ho skdy? ies qoN ielwvw jo Aksr hI UFOs bwry pVdy rhIdw hY aunW bwry AwpjI dw kI iKAwl hY? so vIr jI 'pwqwlw pwqwl' vwlI g`l qy byXkInI C`f ky auhnW siqgurW dy bilhwry jwau jo A`j qoN pMj Cy sdIAW pihlW hI auh scweIAW smJdyy sn ijhVIAW ik swieMs hux ivcwr rhI hY[

sYl pQr mih jMq aupwey qw kw irjk AwgY kr DirAw]

ijvyN ik kuJ ivdvwnW ny pihlW hI kih id`qw hY ik ho skdw hY ik ies sqr dw Bwv p`QrW Aqy ictwnw dy ivckwr rihx vwly jMq vI ho skdw hY[ pr myrw gurbwxI aupr Atl ivSvwS iPr ieh hI kihdw hY ik p`Qr dy iv`c vI jMq huMdy hn[ Swied qusI living fossils bwry qW suixAW hI hovygw[ 18vI sdI dy m`D qoN bwd qr`kIvwn mulkW iv`c keI bwr ies qrW dIAW KbrW imldIAW rhIAW hn ik PlW ictwn dI KudweI smyN ictwn iv~coN jIvq ikrly jW keI hor jMq imly hn[

audwhrx vjoN sMn 1761 iv~c PrWs dy rwjy hYnrI 3 dy fwktr AYNbros pYry ny annual register iv~c iliKAw sI ik jdoN auh ipMf imaUfn iv~c iek AwdmI koloN iek v`fw swrw p`Qr quVvw irhw sI qW aus p`Qr iv`cON iek jIvq f`fU inkilAw[p`Qr iv~c ijQoN f`fU inkilAw aus jgwh koeI bwrIk ijhw surwK vI nhI sI[ pqw nhI ieh f`fU kI Kwky qy iks qrW swh lYky ijMdw irhw[

sMn 1865 iv~c hwrtpUl, ieMglYNf iv~c 'hwrtpUl PrI pRYs' iv~c vI iek lwiem ston dy iblkul bMd p`Qr iv~coN jIvq f`fU (toad) imlx dI Kbr CpI sI

sMn 1876 iv~c uitenhage times of south Africa Aqy sMn 1821 iv`c magazine Tillochs philosophical iv`c vI iesy qrW dIAW KbrW CpIAW sn ijhnW iv`c ictwnw jW p`Qrw iv~coN jIvq jMqu imlx dI puStI kIqI geI sI[ Agr AwpjI nUM gurbwxI dy vwkW qy XkIn nhI hY qW vI iehnW qr`kIXwPqw mulkW dIAW iehnW KbrW qy qW jrUr XkIn hovygw[ ieh swry vwikAw vI ieh hI isD krdy hn ik p`QrW iv~c vI jMqu ho skdy hn[

iehnW s`B aupRokq pRmwxw qoN bwd mukdI g`l qW ieh vI hY ik s`cw gurisK qW auh hI hY jo hr iek gurvwk iv`c sMpUrx ivSvwS r`Kdw hovy

vwihgurU AswnUM s~BnUM gurbwxI pVHn sunx Aqy smJx dI smr`Qw bKSy

rUp is~DU

hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

20/01/04

sMpwdk jI,

5AwbI fwt kwm auqy hrpwl isMG svIfn dw p`qr pVH ky jwpdw hY ik aunHW nUM gurU swihbwn Aqy gurbwxI auqy ivSvwS qy SrDw nhIN rhI, iesy leI ikMqU pRMqU krn vwlw ieh p`qr iliKAw hY[ Drm iksy AkIdy ivc Atut ivSvwS qy SrDw pYdw krdw hY[ jy swnUM pwvn sRI gurU gRMQ swihb 'qy pUrn ivSvS qy SrDw hY qW "ds pwqSwhIAW dI joq" hY, nhIN qW Awm Dwrimk gRMQW vrgw iek gRMQ[ Aj kl gurbwxI bwry AnykW ivdvwnW vlON iqAwr kIqy stIk qy kYstW Awm iml jWdy hn[ kMipaUtr qy Anykw sMsQwvW qy guris`K ivAkqIAW vloN gurU swihbwn, gurU gRMQ swihb Aqy is`K ieiqhws bwry bhuq hI jwxkwrI BrpUr vYbsweIt aupl`bD hn[ hrpwl isMG jI nUM eyfI v`fI gl AwKx qoN pihlW ienHW dw AiDAYn kr lYxw cwhIdw sI[

dws ny BwvyN is`K ieiqhws dw bhuq AiDAYn kIqw hY, pr gurbwxI dw ieqnw igAwn nhIN hY, BwvyN ik hroz svyry jpu jI swihb qy Swm nUM rihrws dw pwT krdw hY[ iPr vI dws dw ivcwr hY ik hrpwl isMG jI nUM iek iek quk lY ky SMky KVy krn dI Qw (Totality) ivc Bwv swrI pOVI nUM smJx dw Xqn krnw cwhIdw hY[ jpu jI swihb dI 22vIN pOVI dI pihlI quk " pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws]" ijs bwry auNHnHW SMkw zwhr kIqw hY, nUM AglI quk qoN inKyiVAw nhIN jw skdw[ pRis`D is`K ivdvwn pRoPYsr swihb isMG, ijnHW Awpxw swrw jIvn gurbwxI dy AiDAYn ,Koj Aqy ies dI ivAwiKAw auqy lgw idqw, vloN ricq 'inqnym stIk' Anuswr ienHW qukW dy ArQ ies qrHW hn:

pwqwlw pwqwl lK , Awgws Awgws ]
EVk EVk Bwil Qky, vyd khin iek vwq ]

ArQ :- (swry) vyd iek-zbwn ho ky AwKdy hn, "pwqwlW dy hyT hor l`KW hI pwqwl hn Aqy AwkwSW dy auqy hor l`Kw AwkwS hn, ( byAMq irSI munI iehnW dy ) AKIrly bMinAW dI Bwl kr ky Q`k gey hn, (pr l`B nhIN sky)"[

hrpwl isMG jI ny rihrws swihb ivcoN 'rwgu gujrI mhlw 5' dI dUsrI quk qy ikMqU pRMqU kIqw hY[ pRoPYsr swihb isMG jI ny ies dy ArQ ies qrHW kIqy hn:

kwhy ry mn icqvih audmu jw Awhir hir jIau pirAw]
sYl pQr mih jMq aupwey qw kw irjk AwgY kr DirAw]

ArQ: hy mn, (qyrI ^wqr) ijs Awhr ivc prmwqmw Awp l`gw hoieAw hY, aus vwsqy qUM ikauN (sdw) socW-i&krW krdw rihMdw hY? jyhVy jIv pRBu ny ictwnW qy p`QrW ivc pYdw kIqy hn, auhnW dw vI irzk aus ny (auhnW dy pYdw krn qoN ) pihlW hI bxw riKAw hY[

dws,Bul cuk lI iKMmw jwcnw krdw hY[
(p`qrkwr) hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

hrjIq isMG hOlYNf

20/01/04

vIr hrpwl svIfn jI,

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw,
vwihgurU jI kI Pqih]

Awp jI ny jo suAwl vY`b sweIt au`pr pu`Cy hn TIk hI iehnW dw juAwb iksy vI gurU Gr dy gRMQI isMG jI jW hor iksy gurU ipAwry qo Awp jI nMU iml skdw hY[ vIr sqnwm isMG jI ny qy hor myry vIrW ny Awp jI nMU juAwb dyx dI koiSS kIqI hY[ bwkI Awp jI kdI kdweI smMUdr dI sYr krdy hovogy qW Awp jI nMU smMUdr dy kMFy ryq au`pr Anykw hI qrW dy is`pIAw, Gogy, AsMK Awid p`Qr rUpI imlxgy[ auhnW dy AMdr vI ie`k kIVw huMdw hY[ bwkI g`l mMnx dI hY[ Agr Awp jI nMU XkIn nhI hY qW Awpy ho jwvygw[ myry iKAwl Anuswr Awp jI ny ivigAwnIAw vlo mMgl qo jwrI kIqI Poto dyKI hovygI ieh qW XkIn hI hY kihx nMU qW Bwvy qusI ieh vI kih idau ik ieh iesy DrqI dI hY[ mY nw mwnMU vwlI rt nw lwieau[ ies qrW dy ivcwr pyprw iv`c soBdy nhI[ ienswn nMU Awpxy bwp bwry XkIn hI krnw pYdw hY[ jo qusI puiCAw hY ieh qW myry siqgurU ny jwgdI joq sRI gurU gRMQ swihb iv`c drj kr id`qw hY[ ijs nMU is`Kw dy nwl –2 hor kOmw vI mMndIAw hn[ jo ik ie`k At`l scweI hY[

hrjIq isMG hOlYNf

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw', nwrvy

20/01/04

HELLO READERS OF 5ABI.COM,

REALLY I WAS DISAPPOINTED BY READING MESSAGES OF SOME PUNJABI YOUTHS LIVING IN CYPRUS, HOW THEY ARE BETRAYED BY SOME TRAVEL AGENTS FROM PUNJAB BY SHOWING THEM HOPE OF GOOD LIFE BUT REALITY IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE LIVING IN POVERTY , AND SOME TIMES SLEEP WITHOUT FOOD IN PARKS AND THEY DONT GET JOBBS COX PEOPLE OF CYPRUS HATE THEM, SOME OF THESE PUNJABI YOUTHS HAVE WROTE MESSAGES IN ONE OF PUNJABI WEB NEWSPAPER TO AWARE ANOTHER PUNJABI YOUTHS TO BE AWARE OF TRAVEL AGENTS, IF THEY HAVE MONEY DONT HESITATE TO START THEIR OWN BUSSINESS INSTEAD TO COME TO FOREIGN, IF THEY WISH TO COME IN FOREIGN COUNTRY CHOOSE PROPER CHANNEL NOT LET THEM TO FALLIN HANDS OF TRAVEL AGENTS,

I ALSO GAVE THEM WEB ADRESS OF THIS 5ABI .COM WESITE TO WRITE THEIR VIEWS IN WWW.5ABI.COM SUCH MORE PEOPLE CAN READ PROBLEMS SOME OUR PUNJABI BROTHERS R FACING IN SOME COUNTRIES.

FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON MOGA NORWAY

siqnwm isMG sivtzrlYNf

19/01/04

vIr hrpwl isMG jI, siq SRI Akwl[

Awp jI ny kuJ puiCAw hY, dws Awp jI nUM quC buDI Anuswr d~sx dI koiSS kry gw Aws hY ky Awp jI dI sMquStI ho jwvy gI jy nW hovy qW ies DrqI qy bhuq bhuq ivdvwn hn jo Awp jI nUM pUrn qOr qy sMquSt krw skdy hn[ vYsy eyho ijhy svwl qW qusI gurU Gr jW iksy hor vIr qoN vI puC skdy sI, ieMnI dUr q~k Bwv vyb q~k phuMcx dI jrUrq nhI sI[

pwqwlw pwqwl lK Agwsw Agws[[ ies quk dw mqlv ieh hY ky hjwrW hI pqwl hn, ijs pRkwr jd nlkw lgweIey qW hr mItr mItr dy pwxI dy svwd dw Prk hY, ies qoN mY smJdw hW ky gurU sihb ny A~j qoN 500 swl pihlW hI A~j bwry d~s idqw sI jo A~j AmrIkw vrgy mulk A~j d~s rhy hn[Agws vI bhuq hn ijs pRkwr AwpW keI DrqIAW bwry suxdy hW[

ieh vI suixAW hY ky iek vwr rUs iv~c kuJ lok auVn qSqrI qy Awey qy auhnW pws bhuq AwDuink qknIk dw jhwj sI qy auhnW dIAW bwhvW pYrW q~k lMbIAW sn, ies dw mqlv iPr ieho hI inkldw hY ky hor vI bhuq DrqIAW hn[ There are regions beyond regions, Lakhs skies beyond skies. b~s iesy hI quk nUM lY ky kwPI AmrIkn lok isK bxy hn[

sYl p~Qr mih jMq aupwey qw kw irjk AwgY Gr DirAw[[

vIr hrpwl isMG jI gurU swihb dw kihx qoN Bwv hY ky do p~QrW dy drimAwn dw kIVw[ gurU sihb kihMdy hn ky r~b ny auhnW kIiVAW dy Kwx pIx dw vI ieMqjwm kIqw hY[ quhwnUM glq PihmI ho geI hY[smJx iv~c Prk hY[ies krky DrqIAW qy pqwl vI l~KW hn qy kIVy vI p~QrW dy drimAwn hn, p~Qr dy iv~c nhI hn[
siqnwm isMG sivtzrlYNf

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

19/01/04

vIr hrpwl isMG, svIfn ny bhuq ijigAwsw Bry suAwl kIqy hn[ Awp jI nUM bynqI hY ik ies vYbsweIt qy gurbwxI dI ivAwiKAw vyKo jI[
http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/

DMnvwd sihq
gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

bljIq isMG G`umx, knyfw

19/01/04

Forgive Yes - Forget Never

I had the opportunity to attend kirtan darbar and memorial service for the victims of operation blue star and 1984 riots. This memorial service was held on January 18, 2004 at Pearson convention center, Brampton. Kirtan darbar was the start of events to follow this year marking the 20th anniversary of 1984 riots.

This was a high-class event, which was well planned and organized by Sikh youth in partnership with various Sikh organizations. I was introduced to one of the main organizers, Mr. Kulvir Singh Gill, through my college time friend Nirmole Singh. After speaking to Mr. Gill, I found out that it took them about a month to get this event organized. He also mentioned that lot of Sikhs went through terrible events and lost their lives, at least we can do is remember them. There were hundred plus sevadars who were doing there assigned tasks with a smile on their faces. Every guest was being greeted by sevadars with "Sat Sri Akal" at the main gates and was being showed the way to get head cover and shoe service.

For three hours various groups of Sikh youth performed the kirtan paying homoage to victims. Closing remarks were delivered by Mr. Kulvir Singh Gill in English and Punjabi.

Rajeev Singh performed Ardaas. After Kirtan, guest had the opportunity to look at the picture exhibition describing the events of operation blue star and 1984 riots. Along with this, various stalls were organized for information sharing and donations. This included Gur Aasra Trust, Pingalwara, and Guru Gobind Singh Children's Foundation. The famous Sikh painters Amrita and Rabindra Kaur Singh, better known as twin sisters were present, who donated prints of their painting to raise donations. Langar was served after the Kirtan.

It was a very fulfilling experience for me to see what Sikh youth can achieve. The Sikh institutions and organization should look upon this event as an example. I congratulate the organizers of this event and thank them for showing the courage to up bring such an important event. At least in Canada, the future of Sikh faith seems to be in good hands. We must keep on organizing such events to keep reminding ourselves what happened and how we can stop this to happen in future. These events are the best way to pass down the Sikh history to our children so that our coming generations and the World will never forget what happened in 1984.

rojI rjIAw

140104_lachar-dance1_100.gif (7322 bytes)BwrqI sMgIq ivc l~crqw qy nMgypn dI GuspYT  - AsIN srOqwgn ies leI ijMmyvwr nhIN hW ijhVy isr JukweI, A~KW bMd krI qy kMn K~uly C~fI ies kMjrKwny nUM Jyl rhy hW? - govrDn g~bI 

18/01/04

AyfItr swhb jI

govrDn g`bI dw lyK ' BwrqI sMgIq …..' bhuq hI vDIAw iliKAw hoieAw hY[ joigMdr sMGyVw ny Awpxy p`qr ivc ies kohV bwry AwpxI icMqw nUM bhuq hI cMgy qwrIky nwl kIqw hY[ mYN smJdIAW ik AsIN ijhVy ivdySW ivc bYTy hW ies ivc swfw vI bhuq v`fw hQ hY[ swfy ieDr dy kuJ muMfy kuVIAW vI roz nvyN nvyN ivifau lY ky Aw rhy hn[ kuJ ku ny qW purwxy Amr gIqW dI vI jV put ky r`K id`qI hY [ ieDr dIAW mwfl kuVIAW qW swrIAW h`dW tp cuky hn[

myry ivcwr ivc iehnW sMgIq dy duSmxw dw smwijk qOr qy bweIkwt kr dyxw cwhIdw hY[

iehnW nUM Awpxy ivAwh SwdIAW qy kdy vI nhIN bulwauxw cwhIdw[ bhuqy bogs klwkwr sMgIq dw blwqkwr kr rhy hn[ iehnW PrzI klwkwrW nUM Kud hI Srm krnI cwhIdI hY [ iehnW dy Gr vI DIAW ByxW mW hoxgy[

glqI hovy mwP krnw jI

rojI rjIAw

AmrIk isMG, PrWs

18/01/04

I'm a panjabi who lives in paris and I want to thank you for your excellent news that you give us everyday.Thank you very much and continue to give excellent information like you are already giving.

hrpwl isMG, svIfn

18/01/04

ies qrW lgdw hY ik keI vIr kwPI gurbwxI pVdy hn[ auhnw nUM bynqI hY ik ieh d``sx dI koiSS krn ik jo jpujI swihb iv``c quk "pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws" dI quk AwaudIN hY[ kI l``K pqwl hn? DrqI qW gol hY ijsdw ArD ivAws qkrIbn 6400 iklo mItr hY[ DrqI iv``c iks qrW l``Kw hI pqwl ho skdy hn[ DrqI dy dUsry pwsy iPr auhI AkwS SUru ho jwdW hY[ pihlW DrqI dw vwXUmMfl AwaudW hY iPr Awpxy sUrj dw pirvwr Aqy iPr bRihmMf, jo isrP ie``k hI hY[

ie``k hor quk AwaudIN hY "sYl pQr mih jMq aupwey qw kw irjku AwgY kir DirAw" mY qW A``j q``k dyiKAw nhI ik p``Qr iv``c vI iksy pRkwr dw kIVw huMdw hY[ jykr iksy myry vIr ny vyKyAw hovy qW jrUr d``sxw[

hrpwl isMG, svIfn

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl, knyfw

vwrs Swh nUM is`k dIdwr dI ey.....
- dlbIr isMG

17/01/04

s.dlbIr isMG ny 'vwrs Swh nUM isk dIdwr dI ey…' lyK rwhIN iesqRI dI sdIAW qoN huuMdI Aw rhI durdSw nUM byinkwb krn dy nwl nwl aus pRqI AwdmI dy ieSk Aqy dIdwr dI is`k nUM Awpxy invykly AMdwz ivc pyS kIqw hY[

bwbw PrId swihb dw ijhVw slok (nM.91) dlbIr isMG ny tUk vjoN idqw hY aus dI dUjI pMgqI ivc 'pRB dyKn' dI QW 'ipr dyKn kI Aws' hY[ Bgq jI pRmwqmw nUM ipr dy rUp ivc inhwrdy hn[ 130vyN slok ivc vI 'iprIAw dI isk' kwrn iksy dw idl nw duKwaux dI pryrnw krdy hn[

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl

AmrjIq isMG Kosw

gubani-raag1_140.jpg (5374 bytes)  10. rwgu DnwsrI

16/01/04

siqkwrXog kMdolw jI,

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw vwihgurU jI kI Pqih[

5AwbI nUM quhwfI dyx vfmu`lI Aqy DMnqwXog qW hY hI, pr jdoN nvyN Sbd nUM rwgW dy ADwr qy ies sweIt qy sunx nUM imldw hY qW mn gd-gd ho jWdw hY Aqy quhwfy leI siqkwr, Adb ivc hor vwDw ho jWdw hY[ pRmwqmw v`loN ieh bKiSs iesy qrW huMdI rhy, ieh idlI qmMnw hY[gurU Pqih[
AmrjIq isMG Kosw

hrjIq isMG hOlYNf

16/01/04

holYNf ij`Qy swry srkwrI AdwirAw iv`c jnvrI 2004 qo isgrt pIx au`qy pwbMdI

fYnhwg(hOlYf) hrjIq isMG : hOlYNf srkwr ny ie`k nvwN kwnMUn bxw ky jnvrIy 2004 qo swry srkwrI Adwry ijhnW iv`c skUlW,kwljW, minstrIAw, pwrlImYt hwaus, eyArport Awid iv`c isgrt -qbwkU pIx au`qy pwbMdI lgw id`qI hY[ hux koeI vI ienswn cwhy ausdw ruqbw ikqnw vI Cot jW v`fw ikau nw hovy auh iksy vI srkwrI Adwry iv`c bYT ky isgrt nhI pI skygw [ srkwr ny ieh ie`k vDIAw PyyYslw krdy hoey ies dI h`d nMu hor vI vDwieAw hY ieQo q`k ky koeI vI ryl stySn jW b`s stySn au`qy vI isgrt dw pRXog nhI kr skdw[

bhUq hI du`K dI g`l hY ky is`K Drm iv`c isgrt nMU h`Q vI lwaux dI pwbMdI hox dy bwvjUd keI AimRMqDwrI-sijjDwrI is`K Awpxy ibjns iv`c vyc rhy hn[ bVI hYrwnI dI g`l hY ik is`KW nMU sRI hirmMdr swihb AimMRqsr dy Awly duAwly isgrt-qmwkU –mIt rihq krvwaux leI morcy lwauxy pYdy hn[ is`K kimauintI bYnyluks ny hOlYNf srkwr dy ies PYNsly dw ic`TI ilK ky svwgq Aqy DMnvwd kIqw hY[

is`K kimaouintI bYnyluks
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hrjIq isMG hOlYNf

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- govrDn g~bI 

15/01/04

vIr gobrDn g`bI jI dw lyK ( BwrqI sMgIq iv`c nMgypn dI Gu`spYT ) bhuq hI vDIAw iliKAw hY[ kwS myry dyS mhwn dy swry lokI ies gMBIr mwmly vwry gMBIr ho ky socx dI koiSS krdy[ ^Yr,koiSS qW Swied kr hI lYYNdy pr iksy kol socx dyKx vwsqy vkq hovy qW hI hY nw[

drAsl myry dyS dy qkrIbn krky lokI bolHy Aqy AMny ho cu`ky hn[ iehnw lokW nUM nw qW Awpxy Awp qoN ibnw kuJ idKweI hI idMdw hY Aqy nw hI Awpxy Awp qoN ibnw kuJ suxdw hY[ jo ivcwry grIb hn auhnw nUM Awpxy Fih rhy mkwn, vkq qoN pihlW Aw irhw buf`wpw, h`Q nw A`pVn vwly QW qy peI rotI, qn Fkx leI ^rId dI phuMc qoN bwhr pey kpVy qoN ibnw kuJ nhI idsdw[ Bu`K nwl qIlw hoey srIrW dIAW h`fIAW dI KV-KVwht, ibmwrI nwl ivlHk rhy b`cy Aqy bu`iFAW dIAW hUkW, ibnw dhyz qoN mwipAW dy GrIN bYTIAW DIAW dy kIrinAW qoN ibnw kuJ nhI suxdw, ieh grIbVy jhy qW ies krky AMny Aqy bolHy hn[ ies qrW hI jo bhuq hI ivcwry-ivcwry AmIr hn auhnw nUM AwpxIAW koTIAW, Awpxy bYNk ^wiqAW, AwpxIAW g`dIAW, Awpxy BweI-BqIijAW Aqy AwpxIAW pRdysW q`k bxweIAW hoeIAW zwiedwdW qoN ibnw kuJ nhI idsdw[ mUr^ lokW dy mUMhoN AwpxI jY jY kwr, Awpxy nwm qy ijMdw-bwd dy nwAry, Awpxy h`k iv`c ryfIE, tI vI qoN c`ldIAW ^brW Aqy ivroDI iDr dy i^lwP nwAry-bwzI qoN ibnw kuJ nhI suxdw, ies krky ieh AmIrVy jhy vI AMny Aqy bolHy hn[

bwkI bcy swfy s`cy-su`cy Drmw dy Tykydwr, iehnw nUM iek dUjy dy Drm au`qy ielzwm lwaux, dUijAW iv`c ^wmIAW, Awpxy Awp nUM AslI pMQ Drm dy rKvwly, Aqy dUjy pMQ Drm dy doKIAW dy ktihry iv`c KVy hox qoN ibnw kuJ nhI idsdw[ Awpxy Drm dI Awpxy pMQ dI SoBw, Awpxy Awp dI vifAweI, dUjy Drmw dI, dUjy lokW dI inMidAw, dUijAW dI hoey-hoey, AwpxI b`ly-b`ly qoN ibnw kuJ nhI suxdw, ies krky ieh bgly Bgq vI AMny Aqy bolHy hI hn[ hux iehnw swirAW nUM C`f ky jy kuJ lok bcy vI hoxgy qW auhnw Gu`gIAW dI iehnw kwvW dy s`Q iv`c kOx suxygw jW auh kuJ ku Gu`gIAW auhnw kwvW qoN &sl nUM ikvyN bcw skdIAW hn? hY koeI zvwb iksy pVy ilKy kol? suixAw hY purwxy zmwny iv`c lokI iehnw styjW au`qy n`cx vwilAW nUM kMzr kihMdy huMdy sn BwvyN aus vyly auhnw dw pihrwvw cMgw Blw SrI&W vwlw huMdw sI[ pr A`j k`l ieh jihVy styjW au`qy jW iPlmw iv`c nw mwqr jhy kpVy pw ky Awpxy izsmw dI numwieS krdy hn iehnw nUM swfy lokI stwr kih ky ikauN bulwaudy hn? ijho ijhy iehnw dy kpVy hn Eho ijhy hI iehnw leI gIq gwaux vwly Aqy ilKx vwly hn[ jy purwxy smy iv`c qn pUrw Fk ky gwaux n`cx vwilAw nUM kMzr kihMdy sn qW hux iehnw izsm numwieSW nUM kI ikhw jwvy? hY iksyy kol iehnw nWigAW leI koeI vDIAw ijhw FukvW nwm? jy myry ie^iqAwr iv`c iehnw by-Srmw leI &Yslw lYxw huMdw qW mYN Swied pihlW imstr sdm hUsYn nUM Azwd krvw ky iPr iehnw swry nWigAW by-Srmw nUM aus kol C`f AwauNdw[ ikauN ky auh iehnw nUM cMgI m`q dy skdw sI[

Awpxy klcr nUM Awpxy ivrsy nUM sMBwlx leI hr vrg dy, hr Drm dy, hr mzbH dy hr kOm dy rKvwilAW qy inrBr huMdw hY, A&sos, swfy dyS iv`c qW iehnw rKvwilAW dw jo hwl hY auh qW swry jwxdy hI hn ies leI ihwr ky iehI kihxw cMgw hovygw[ ( r`b rwKw )

iek hor nwl l`gdI g`l cyqy Aw geI[ auh hY Awpxy 5AwbI fwt kwm au`qy A`j k`l kwPI lyK-isrlyK swfy vIr Byj rhy hn[ auh vIr dUsirAW dy ilKy hoey lyK iesI fwt kwm qoN pMjwbI iv`c pV qW lYNdy hn pr zvwb ieMgilS iv`c hI ilKxgy[ Awpxy Awp nUM pMjwbI nwl joV ky r`Kx dIAW g`lW vI krdy hn pr qwvIN ilKxgy AMgryzI iv`c hI[ hor qW hor A`j k`l qW kuJ AYYsy vIr ByYxw vI hn jo pMjwbI nUM AMgryzI dy aUVy AYVy iv`c ilK rhy hn pqw nhI auh kI swbq krnw cwhuMdy hn? Swied eyhy hI ik auhnw nUM ieMgilS ilKxI pVnI AwauNdI hY[ myrI iehnw swry vIrW Aqy BYxw nUM dovyN h`Q joV ky bynqI hY ik ikrpw krky km sy km 5AwbI fwt kwm leI qW pMjwbI iv`c iliKAw krn[ ies dI vzw ieh vI ho skdI hY ik Swied myry vrgy bhuq swry AnpVHW nUM AMgryzI pVHnI hI nw AwauNdI hovy[ Awp sB dw DnvwdI hovWgw[

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