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gurjIq isMG

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- fw: gurimMdr is`DU

08/02/04

myry ipAwry sMpwdk swihb jI,
vwihguru jI kw Kwlsw[ vwihgurU jI kI Piqh]

A~j bhuq dyr bwAd Awp jI dI vYbsweIt pVHI Aqy fw. gurimMdr sMDU jI dw lyK pMjwbI dy bwbq pVHn nUM imilAw Aqy AMdroN cIsW inkl geIAW ikauN ik ieh lyK pMjwbI bolI nUM smripq sI[ pr pVHn vwilAW nUM ijhnW dI mW ies j~g qoN keI vryH pihlW qur geI jW Ajy huxy hI qur geI auhnW dy idlW ivcoN ie~k vwrI iPr mW dy ivCoVy dw qIr inkl igAw Aqy DwhW mwr ky rox nUM jIA kIqw[

ieQy myrw auprlw pihrw ilKx dw Bwv ArQ hY ik fw. sMDU ny jo iliKAw hY Aqy swnUM Agwh kIqw hY ik AwpxI jubwn iv~c hI ilKIey pVHIey bolIey Aqy b~icAW nwl g~lW krIey, mYN ies nwl iblkul sihmq hW Aqy auhnW nUM mubwrk Byjdw hW ik bhuq sohxw lyK idl dIAW gihrweIAW iv~coN ilK ky iek vwrI iPr pMjwbI nUM iqAwgx vwilAW nUM JMjoV ky r~K id~qw hY[ ieh hor vI ikMnw cMgw hovygw jykr ies lyK dw "AMgryjI Aqy ihMdI iv~c qrzmw krky CwipAw jwvy Aqy bwkI ihMdI AMgryjI pMjwbI dIAW AKbwrw nUM ByijAw jwvy qW ik ijhVy vIr BweI pMjwbI bolxI ilKxI iblkul Bul hI gey hn jW nvyN tIn eyjr ijhnW dI pYdwieS hI ieQy jw bwhrly hor mulkW iv~c hoeI hY , vI Awpxy ivrsy nwl juVn dI koiSS krn[

mYN Awp jI dw qih idloN Sukr guzwr hW ik Awp jI iblkul shI soc lY ky pMjwbI nUM hor PYlwaux leI BrpUr koiSS kr rhy ho[ pRmwqmw quhwnUM , quhwfy stwP, pRIvwr Aqy dosqW irSqydwrW nUM iblkul cVHdIklw iv~c rKy[
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gurjIq isMG

mnjIq isMG XU pI, Bwrq

08/02/04

BfeI amrjIq isMG jrmnI df pqr bVf grm hY, aOr eys grmI ny hI sfry pvfVy pfey hn.

BfeI amrjIq isMG jI, afp jI qF jrmnI jf ibrfjy ho, aOr glF krdy ho BfeI qfrU isMG dIaF jo ky Aus isMG ny sLhIdI prfpq kIqI. BfeI sfihb jI, ijhVy sLhIdF dIaF afp ryPryNs idMdy ho, Auh afp jI vrgy nhIN sn ky lokf nUM Cz ky afp jrmnI jf ibrfjy. Auh lokf ivc rhy aqy kurbfn hoey. sfnUM vsidaF rsidaF nUM afpxy jfn mfl df sMsf hY. sfnUM qusIN iek qrFH nfl zrpok kihMdy ho aqy kihMdy ho ik isK mOq qoN nhIN zrdf, pr jy qusIN eyny hI bhfdr ho qF jrmnI ikAuN bYTy ho. Bfrq ikAuN nhI aoNdy. keI quhfzy vrgy hI pfksqn vI byTy hn, Auh vI Bfrq zrdy hI nhIN aONdy. afAu Bfrq qy kro kurbfnI, bxo qfrU isMG.

AUDm isMG dIaF aOr Bgq isMG dIaF imsflF sfnUM ikAuN dyNdy ho, pr afp jI Bgq isMG kdoN bxogy? kOm dI iejq df agr eynf hI iPkr hY qF jrmnI 'c bYTx df kI mqlb? sfnUM vsidaF rsidaF nUM AujfVn leI jrmnI bYT ky nsIhqF dyxIaF sKflIaF hn. svfd qF afvy agr ikqy XU pI ivc sfzy nfl af ky vsoN qy iPr AujVn leI iqafr hovo. dUijaF nUM kurbfnI kridaF vyKxf sKflf hY. afp kurbfnI krn dI ihMmq vI kro.

bfkI sMq iBMzrF vfilaF nUM iks zfktr ny prcI ilK ky idqI sI ky drbfr sfihb nUM iklf bxf lvo, msLIngMnF bIV lvo. Auh vI akfl qKq Auqy zrdy hI bYTy sn ik bfhr pusl ny cuwk lYxf sI. puls dy zroN hI do ZfeI sfl jdoN morcf cilaf sI qF drbfr sfhb qoN bfhr nhIN afey. aMdr bYTy hI Pyr iek iek isK nUM 35 35 ihMdU aoNdy dy llkry mfrdy rhy. llkfry mfry sMqF ny qy julm Jilaf asIN.

bfkI jrmnI ivc luky bYTy amrjIq isMG jI, 84-85 ivc ijhVf julm hoieaf Auh asIN Jilaf, hfly qusIN rjy nhIN sfzI brbfdI dyK ky ky dubfrf Pyr sfzI brbfdI dyKn dI ieCf rKdy ho. bfdl tOhVf ny luitaf qF Xfd af igaf pr ijhVI lut pYsy dI qy iejqF dI KfVkUaF ny isKI bfxy 'c kIqI Aus vfry kI iKafl hY? ijnf nfl vfprIaF hn AuhnF nUM puCo. ijnF dIaF DIaF BYxf dI iejq KfVkU bxky lutI AuhnF nfl gl kr ky dyKo Kflsqfn dI.

bfkI kfrobfr ijMdgI dI rIaYltI hY, ies qoN sfnUM aKF mIcx nUM nf kho. qusIN vI jfn bcOx leI hI jrmnI bYTy ho. jrmnI ivc bYTy vI isrPL pfT nhIN krI jFdy. jrUr hI koeI kfrobfr jrUr krdy hovogy. aYvyN hI nfhry mfr mfr ky jfnF aqy jfiedfdF gvf lYxf vI koeI isafxp nhIN sgoN mUrKqf hI huMdI hY. kOm dI syvf cMgy afcfr nfl huMdI hY nf ik nfhry mfr mfr ky afz gvfz ivc vsdy ihMdUaF nUM gl puafx nfl. jy ihMdU sfzy ivruD hoey qF ksUr amrjIq isMG quhfzy vrgy grmdlIaF df hY. 84 qoN pYhlF kdy sfnUM iksy isK nUM Bfrq ivc koeI qklIp nhIN afeI sI, pr jdoN drvfr sfhb ivc bfbf jI iBMzrFvfly lohylfKy ho ky jo mUMh afieaf bolI gey qy bsF ivcoN ihMdU kZ kZ ky BuMn suty qF Pyr Auhdf mul asIN qfiraf nf ik amrjIq isMG jrmnI ny. ies leI sfnUM hor Kuafr nf kro. sfnUM nhIN cfhIdf koeI Kflsqfn jF ihMdUsqfn. pfksqfn muslmfnF ny bxf ilaf lKF mrvf ky qy kI surg Ausfr ilaf. eyho quhfzy Kflsqfn ivc hoxf hY. iehI tOhVy, iehI mfnocfhl, iehI bfdl, iehI sucf lMgfhf, qoqf isMG vrgy hI hoxgy Kflsqfn ivc vI. jrmnI ivc kyhVf gurdvfrf hY ijQy iek dUjy dIaF dfhVIaF isKF dy hQF ivc nhIN huMdIaF. roj Bfrq dy aKbfrf ivc pVdy hF ik Plfxy qF afh ho igaf Plfxy QF afh. Kflsqfn ivc koeI dyvqy nhIN af jfxy. sfzIaF jfeydfdF luutvf ky kI imlygf?

bfkI BfeI amrjIq isMG jI, agr bOhqf hI cf hY bdlf lYx df jF afpxy ihsfb nfl isKI dI syvf df qF jrmnI Cz ky Bfrq afvo qy kurbfnI leI gurU dsvyN pfqsLfh vFg bfl bcy nUM vI ilafvo qy sMLgrsL kro. glf nfl qy icTIaf ilKx nfl syvf nhIN huMdI. lokf nUM ag ivc Dkx dI QF afp af ky dyKo. agr quhfzy ivc sc muc hI isKI df aslI jjbf hY qf Bfrq afvo pMjfb afvo. agr isKI isrP mgj nUM hI cVI hY aqy rUh ivc nhIN hY qf gurbfxI pVo qy iksy cMgy igafnI qoN arQ vI smJo. kly arQ nf smJo sgoN jIvn vI isKI vflf jIvo.

mnjIq isMG XU pI Bfrq

hrpwl isMG (svIfn)

08/02/04

ipCly keI p``qrW iv``c keI s``jx Drm vwry ik koeI ihMdU hY koeI is``K hY ilK rhy hn[ ie``k mnu``KI jIvn jIx leI kI ieho ijhIAW g``lW au``pr smW brbwd krnw jrUrI hY[ ijhVy mMndy hn ik hW ieh jrUrI hY iPr qW auh ieh vI mMndy hoxgy ik jo A``j q``k Drm dIAw lVweIAW iv``c mry hn (Aksr hr kOm Awpxy pwsy vwilAw nUM ShId hI kihdIN hY) auh jwiej hn[ ieho ijhy k``tVvwdI hI dMgy krdy
hn, krky pCqwvw krn dI vjwey kihxgy mYN qW beI ieMny muslmwn, is``K jW ihMdU mwr id``qy ijvy koeI cMgw kMm kIqw hovy[ jy ieho ijhy pSU nhI qW kI hn[

ieho ijhI k``tVqw iksy Drm vwlw ivAkqI r``K skdw hY jdik swry Drm SwqI cwhudy hn Aqy ie`k dUsry nUM GtIAw smJdy hn[ mY A``j q``k ieho ijhw bMdw ieh kihMdw ik myrw Drm qW PlwnW hY pr dUsry Drm vwly bhuq cMgy hn[

PrWs iv``c b``icAW dy skUlW iv``c iksy vI Dwrimk icMn aupr pwbMdI keI lokW nUM cMgw nhI lgdw pr mY smJdw hW ik auhnw dIAW Awaux vwlIAW nslW Biv``K iv``c Drm Bulw ky hor vI SwqI nwl rih skxgIAW[ keI g``l krdy hn ik lokqMqr hY koeI jo mrzI kry[ auuhnw nUM jvwv hY ik b``cy mn dy s``cy huMdy hn, KylxW m``lxW mOj msqI krnI hI auhnw nUM cMgI lgdI hY[ koeI vI b``cw AwpxI mrjI nwl burky zw dsqwrW nhI pwaudw[ ies leI b``icAW leI qW koeI vI lokqMqr nW hoieAw kauik auhnw dy mW bwp auhnw nUM mjbUr krdy hn[ hW jy PrWs iv``c kdy v``ifAW dy rihx sihx qy pwbMdI lgwaudw hY qW glq hY[

ieh koeI svwl nhIN ik holI 2 hor dyS vI ies qrW krngy, jy svwl hY qW ieh ik kdoN nUM[ iesnUM keI 100 swl q``k l``g skdy hn[ ienswn iesy qrW hI hmySw qoN qr``kI krdw AwieAw hY[ ieh kdy guPwvW iv``c rihdW sI[

hrpwl isMG (svIfn)

siqnwm isMG, sivtzrlYNf

08/02/04

vIr AmrjIq isMG jrmnI dw K~q bhuq SlwGw Xog hY[ ikRpw krky lgwqwr Aysy ivcwr jwrI r~Ko[

siqnwm isMG

inrml isMG DONsI

08/02/04

myry ic`qr myry Sbd Aqy AjokI pMjwbI qsvIr

mYN ie`k ic`qrkwr hW Aqy ic`qr bxwaudW hW AsIN pYNqI ic`qrkwr ie`k hI iemwrq iv`c Awpxy stUfIa r`Kdy hW[

mYN Awpxy bxwey hoey ic`qrW nUM kdI ie`k pwsy qoN KVH ky, kdI dUjy pwsy qoN, aupro, Q``ilau, swhmxy bYT ky, A`KW pUrIAW Kol ky jW A`DIAW ku mIc ky g`l kI hr pihlU qoN smJx dI koiSS krdw hW[

iPr mYN Awpxy ic`qrkwr dosqW nUM Awpxy stUfIa iv`c Awaux dI dwAvq dy idMdW hW ieh myry dosq myry ic`qrW aupr tIkw it``pxI krky nvW idRStIkox dy jWdy hn[

hux A`K AjokI pMjwbI qsvIr aupr itkI hY ies qsvIr nUM vI ku`J Aijhy ikirAw krm dI cwhq hY

inrml isMG DONsI

SmSyr isMG - &lOrIfw

07/02/04

sMpwdk jI,

s. mnjIq isMG horW dw dUsrw mh`qv pUrn p`qr pVHn ivc AwieAw hY[ ies bwry mYN is`K p`qrkwr hrbIr isMG BMvr horW dw iDAwn iKcHxw cwhvW gw[ jykr auh koeI lok rwey bnwaux dy smr`Q ho skdy hox, qW smu`cI kOm iksy Anhoxy / ABwgy sMkt qoN bc jwvy[

kI ieh AWkVy TIk hn ik pMjwb qoN bwhr rihMdy is`KW dI igxqI pMjwb ivc rihx vwilAw qoN vI vDyry jW lg Bg hY[ Aqy jy kr fwktr cOhwn ijhy grm iKAwlIAW dI muihMm Pyr zor PVdI hY, qW bwhr bYTy is`KW nUM ies dw nqIjw Bugqxw pvygw[

ijs qrW pMjwb dy AOsq ikswn dy ih`sy vDyry krky 4 / 6 eykV zmIn hI AwauNdI hY[ kI prvwsI is`KW nUM AwpxI hzwrW jW sYNkVy eykV zmInW vyc ky, pMjwb ivc isr lkox nUM QW iml skygI?

jy kr 84 dy hwlwq vWg, auhnW nwl EQoN dI vsoN nw-imlvrqn hI SurU kr dyvy, qW kI hSr hovygw, kdy soicAw hY?

auhnW dw view point kwbly ZOr hY[

SmSyr isMG - &lOrIfw

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

07/02/04

mnjIq isMG jI,

“qklIp” vrgI SbdwvlI Aqy lMmy-lMmy ^q ilKx nwl iksy g`l dw vzn nhIN vD jWdw[ ijhVy AiqMdrpwl isMG dIAW qusIN g`lW kr rhy ho aus nUM pMjwb iv`c kOx mUMh lw irhw hY? iek pwsy qW ieh quhwfI jwcy ieh AKOqI “grmdlIAw” pihlU Aqy dUjy pwsy kwlIAW sUcIAW hwly vI Kqm nhIN hoeIAW Aqy ienswnI h`kW (ihaUmn rweItz) vwly kys ltk rhy hn[ iek pwsy qW AiqMdrpwl isMG cMfIgVH iv`c “Kwlsqwn sYmInwr” kr irhw hY, dUjy pwsy kwlIAW sUcIAW Aqy ienswnI h`kW dy kys[ ieh g`l kuJ hzm nhIN ho rhI hY[ suAwl qW ieh hY ik AiqMdrpwl isMG nUM lokW au~qy QoipAw ikauN jw irhw hY? h`d hI ho geI[ lok hI eyny Ju`fU ho gey hn ik hwkm jmwq hI bySrmI dI A`q t`p rhI hY?

DMnvwd sihq

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

AmrjIq isMG jrmnI

07/02/04

vIr mnjIq isMG XU pI

qusIN gurbfxI dI ieWk quk df hvflf dy ky dUijaF nUM pRBfivq nhIN kr skdy ikAuNik vIr isMGF vloN soDy gey mwsf rMGV, mIr mMnMU aqy sYkVy hor mugl rfj qy aMgryjI rfj dy jrnYl vI mfns kI jfq hI sn . BfeI suwKf isMG aqy BfeI mihqfb isMG nMU vI jy koeI quhfzy ivcfrF vflf pRBfivq kr lYNdf qF awj hirmMdr sfihb ivKy sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb df pRkfsL nF huMdf sgoN mwsy rMGV dI aOlfd df rfj huMdf . vIr muglF, aMgryjI rfj dy ivruwD ivdroh krn vfly isMGF nMU vI bhuq lok zr ky ijAux dI slfh idMdy sn , bfgI aqy Btky hoey kihMdy sn pr awj AUDm isMG, Bgq isMG aqy hor sLhIdF dIaF brsIaF vI mnfAuNdy hn .

jy jIvy piq lwQI jfie,
sB hrfm jyqf ikC Kfie .

vIr iksy nMU BYa dyxf jF iksy df BYa sihxf gurbfxI anusfr donoN glq hn . afpxI ieWjLq Kuhf ky jIxf hrfm dwisaf igaf hY . gurbfxI qy ivsLvfsL krn vfly nUM kOm dI ieWjq bhflI leI kMm krny cfhIdy hn nf ik afpxy kfrobfr df vfsqf dyxf cfhIdf hY . isWK Drm dI mfx mirafdf leI dsmysL ipqf ny afpxy sfry pirvfr nMU kurbfn kIqf . jdoN qusIN iksy Btky hoey iswK dy glq kfrnfmy dI imsfl idMdy ho qF vIr crKVIaF qy cVn vfilaF, dygF ivc Auvfly igaF, afpxy pirvfrF dI kurbfnI dyx vfilaF , KoprIaF lhfAux vfilaF,bMd-bMd ktvfAux vfilaF nMU ikAuN Buwl jFdy ho . afpxI kOm nUM Ausdy hwkF qoN jfgrUk krvfAuxF koeI eIrKf jF grm grm gwlF nhI . ihtlr dy jhUdIaF AuWqy kIqy julmF df ihsfb awj 60 sfl bfad jrmnF nUM dyxf pY irhf hY, kosobo lokF qy kIqy julmF leI ijMmyvfr XUgoslfvIaf dy qfnfsLfh nMU zYn-hfg (hflYNz) dI adflq ivwc afpxf bcfa krnF aOKf ho igaf hY. iewk idn sfzI kOm Auyqy hoey awiqafcfr leI ijMLmyvfr lokF nMU ihsfb dyxf pvygf. pr ies leI sfnMU afpxy hwkF leI jfgrUk hoxf pvygf.

bfdl-tOhVy vrigaF ny kOm nMU isrP luwitaf hY. ieho ijhy keIy smyN smyN qy iswKI Bys ivwc afey hn ijnF ny afpxy pirvfrk moh ivc pY ky iswKF df aksL Krfb kIqf, pr ies df arQ ieh nhIN sfry iswK glq hn. bfdl qy Ausdy sfQIaF ny jo iBsLtfcfr kIqf hY Auh pYsf sfzf lokF df srmfieaf hY ijs df sfnMU ivroD krnf cfhIdf nf ik ies nMU cuwp-cfp sihxf cfhIdf hY ijsdI qusIN hmfieq kr rhy ho. sfnUM ieh vI Xfd rwKxf cfhIdf hY ik nvMbr 1984 df kqlyafm iswKF df hoieaf sI nf ik pMjfbIaF df, jdoN vYrIaF nuM hr isWK dy ichry coN sqvMq isMG aqy byaMq isMG idsdy sn . sfkf nIlf qfrf aqy vuzroj iswKF nMU sbk isKfAux leI socI smJI kfrvfeI sI nf ik sMq jrnYl isMG iBMzrFvflf ivruwD .

jy koeI ihMdU jF muslmfn afpxy Drm Auqy mfx krdf hY qF iksy iswK nMU koeI ieqrfjL nhIN hoxf cfhIdf pr iewk isWK nMU kysfDfrI ihMdU drsfAux vfilaF df jrUr ivroD kIqf jfvygf . gwl ieh nhIN koeI amrIkf rihMdf hY jF bMgfl ivc rihMdf hY . qusIN afpxy kfrobfr df vfsqf dy ky, qwQF nUM rlgz krky JUT sihx leI pyRirq nf kro . jy quhfzy kihx anusfr mMn vI ilaf jfvy sMq iBzrFvflf jF sqvMq isMG aqy byaMq isMG ksUrvfr sn qF bfkI iswKF df kI ksUr sI ijhnF nUM pirvfr smyq mfr mukf idWqf igaf . ijs 70-80 iswKF dI qusIN gwl rhy ho iehnF ivcoN ijs vI pirvfr dy mYNbr srkfrI awqvfd dI Byt cVy hn AuhnF dI rfie quhfzI soc nfloN vwKrI soc rwKdy hn . vIr jy asIN afpxf Drm inBf nhIN skdy qF sfnMU idKfvy vflf isWK nhIN bxnF cfhIdf . jy Kud zr zr ky jIx dI cfhq hovy qF dUijaF nUM gurbfxI pVHn dI pRyrxf nfl Prk nhIN pYxf ikAuNik iksy vI gurU ny jflm- julm awgy Jukx leI nhIN ikhf sgoN jLulm df tfkrf krn dI pRyrxf idwqI hY .

amrjIq isMG jrmnI

mnjIq isMG XU pI

06/02/04

myrI icTI bfry gurqyj isMG jI nUM qklIp hoeI hY. mYN pihlF hI ds dyvF ik myrI pflnposn XU pI dI hY pr mYN pMjfbI afp isK leI ikAUik myrf pMjfbI ivc sLONk hY. ies leI ho skdf hY ky mYN suD pMjfbI nf ilK skF. pr myry iemosLnjL jrUr hn jo ik pfTkF nfl sFJy krny jrUrI hn.

mYN Pyr dohrONdf hF ik jyhVy lok isKI dy nfm Auqy prvok krn vflIaF gwlF krdy hn aqy ajyihaF glF ilK mfrdy hn ijnFH nfl ihMdU Brf icV dy hn aqy sfzy bfry ieh sLk pYNx lg jFdI hY ky asIN Bfrq dy ivruD hF, qF ies df sfnUM bfhr pMjfb qoN bfhr vsdy isKF bhuq nuksfn hoieaf hY. 84-85 vyly jo Bugiqaf Auh asIN Bugiqaf. ies scfeI qoN aKF nf mItIey ky sfzy isKF dy lIzrF ny isafxP qoN kMm nhIN ilaf sI aqy nPrq vfly ibafn drvfr sfhb qoN idqy ijs kfrn pMjfb qoN bfhrly isKF Auqy musIbqF afeIaF. jo kusL 84-85 qoN mgroN hoieaf sI Aus qoN sfzy isKF ny koeI sbk nhIN isiKaf aqy hfly vI BVkfAU ibafnvfjI krn qoN nhIN tldy.

hux eyDr aiqMdrpfl isMG aqy zfktr jgjIq isMG chfn vrgy Pyr Kflsqfn mMgx lg pey hn. eyhnF df Kflsqfn bxy jF nf pr asIN jyhVy XU pI bMgfl ibhfr aqy bMby qoN lY ky idwlI hrXfny ivc rihMdy isK hF sfzI jfn muTI ivc jrUr kr dyxI hY. jyhVy vIr knyzf amrIkf jF brqfnIaf ivc bYTy hn aqy mOj krdy hn aqy afpxy tbrF nUM vI bfhr sdI jFdy hn pr Kflsqfn Kfslqfn kYh ky sfnUM mrvOxgy nhI qf hor kI krngy? sfrI dunIaF qF iek qoN dUjy vl nUM af rhI hY qF ky qrkI kry pr eyh khI jFdy hn ky Kflsqfn lYxf hY ky ijsdf mqlv eyh hI inkldf hY ky sn 47 vFg iek vfr Pyr isKF df AujfVf XU pI ibhfr bMby klkqy qoN ho jfvygf. eyh aiqMdrpfl vrgy grmdlIaF nUM hQ bMn ky bynqI hY ky asIN dO sO jF pMj sO nhIN asIN sT sqr lK isK hF jo ky pjMfb qoN bfhr hF Bfrq dy pRFqf ivwc jo ik sLfn nfl rYh rhy hF. lokl BeIey lok sfzI bOhq iejq krdy hn pr agr eyh Kflsqfn df rOlf Pyr jfg ipaf qF sfzf bOhq hfl mfVf ho jfxf hY. eys leI asIN qF pYhlF hI Kbrdfr krdy hF ky sfzf iDafn rK ky hI jo mMgxf hY mMgo. pMjfb ivc Auny isK nhIN ijny ky Bfrq dy bfkI sUibaF ivc hn. jyhVy vIr Kflsqfn Kflsqfn kYh rhy hn kI AunhF ny sfQoN puiCaf hY ky kI asIN pMjfb ivc aOx leI iqafr hF? sfzy kol hjfr hjfr eykV dy Pfrm hn aqy trk hn kfrF aqy hor kfrobfr hn. kI asIN eyh sfrf kusL pMjfb afpxy isrF qy cuk ky KV lvFgy? sfzy vfsqy pMjfb ivc hY kI? asIN muV ky kMgfl nhIN hoxf cONhdy. eys leI sfzy 'qy qrs kro aqy 26 jnvrI jF 15 agsq dy ivrud bolx qoN pYhlF sfzy bfry soco. hosL qoN kMMm lvo.

mnjIq isMG XU pI

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

07/02/04

HELLO,

Really manjeet singh UP da vichaar kabla tarif ha, MANJEET SINGH JI i agree with u that lakhs of sikhs running their good bussiness in up bihar, orissa, bengal , maharastra etc, most of thr transport bussiness is in the hands of sikh community, here i ask my garam khayali veers ki ih hi sikhi ha ki punjabo bahar vasde sikha nu balli chadhya ka aasi khalistan di sirjana kariyya, ja tuhadi aahi sooch ha ta oh veer guru de sikh kahaun da kabil nahi, veero canada america, german to vichar dena aasan han, and jo tuhada vichara nu sach man lande han oh dukh punjab ch bhukt da han tusi ja tuhada parwar wala nahi, sirf kuch is tera de hi leader jo bahar vassa han di meharbani karke punjab de hazara sikh balli chadhe, par garam khaayali veera de parwar and oh aap sukh di nidh usa , canada, german wich saonda reha, veero ik bar phir punjab shanti de reh ta aayya ha, PUNJAB WICH SHANTI REHAN DO,VEERO JO GARAM KHAYALLA CH BISHWAS RAKHDA HO, HAVE U EVER THOUGHT TO SPREAD SIKHISM , NEVER I DONT THINK SO AND NEVER EVEN SGPC HAVE THINK SUCH, VEERO SIKHI SPREAD KARO JAHRILLA VICHAR NAHI, IN INDIA THERE ARE MORE THAN 16 CRORE PEOPLE SOME BELEIVE IN GURU NANAK AND EVERN THEY HAVE LONG HAIRS AND USE TURBANS,BUT THEY DONT KNOW PUNJABI OR PUNJABI CULTURE, BUT THEY SAID OUR FOREFATHERS WERE WITH GURU GOBIND SINGH JI WHILE THEY WERE TRAVELLING TOWARDS SOUTH AND THESE SIKHS LIVE IN THE DECCAN BELT ESPECIALLY NEAR NAGPUR SOME PART OFKARNATAKE, ORISSA AND IN MP, NON OF SIKHS HAVE THOUGHT OF THESE PEOPLE SOME ARE WILLING TO KNOW ABOUT SIKH RELIGION AND TO BE PART OF SIKHS, ONLY GURUDWARA COMMITEE AND SOME SIKHS FROM NAGPUR ARE ARAISING FONDS TO GET BETTER LIFE FOR THESE PEOPLE AND HAVE BEGAN WITH BY CONSTRUCTING GURUDWARAS IN THEIR VILLAGES AND BY GIVING THEM TEACHING IN GURMUKHI,WITH THE HELP OF CHANDHA SOME THESE PEOPLE FROM GURDWARA COMMITEE NAGPUR GET FROM SIKH TRUCK DRIVERS ,
I THINK TODAY SIKH RELIGION NEED SPREAD OF SIKHISM NOT KHALISTAN .VEERO HELP KARNI HA TA GURDWARA COMMITEE NAGPUR DI HELP KARO JO SIKHISM SPREAD KARAN DI KOSHISH KAR REHA HAN,
SAT SRI AKAL
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON MOGA NORWAY

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

06/02/04

fw: guirMdr sroieAw jIE,

pMjwbI hIro dy suAwl dw juAwb bhuq AOKw hY[ ies leI nhIN ik hIroAW dI Gwt hY, sgoN ieh ik auh izAwdw Drm dy dwiery iv`c b`Jy hoey hn[ iPr ies dw dUjw pihlU ieh hovygw ik AsIN hIro iks nUM mMnWgy? koeI jWbwz, kvI, lyKk, gwiek, ivigAwnI, KojI, bu`DIjIvI jW iPr koeI hor? iblw-S`k kvI, lyKk, gwiek Awid qW keI hn pr kI auh iek ‘hIro’ ho skdy hn? ieh isr& iek Ku`lw suAwl hY[ ivigAwnI, KojI, bu`DIjIvI Awid vI keI hn-auh jW qW Drm dy dwiery iv`c b`Jy hn jW iPr pMjwbI ho ky vI aunHW AwpxI pCwx kdI vI pMjwbI dy qOr qy prp`k nhIN kIqI[ sB qoN AwKrI suAwl ieh hY ik kI hwkm jmwqW cwhuxgIAW ik koeI sWJw pMjwbI hIro au~Bry Aqy pMjwbIAq sWJIvwlqw vDy? 5AwbI.kOm dy pwTk kI socdy hn?

AgWaUN DMnvwd sihq

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

Anmol kOr

06/02/04

siqkwrXog sMpwdk jI Aqy igAwnI krnYl isMG jI,
siq sRI Akwl[

mY Awp jI dI bhuq DMnvwdI hW, jo qusI myrIAW rcnwvW psMd kIqIAW Aqy A`gy qoN hor vI imhnq krn dw hOslw vDwieAw[ vYsy qW koeI vI iek`lw ienswn ku`J vI nhI kr skdw, so mY vI Awp jI vloN imlI h`lw SyrI,pwTkW vloN imly ipAwr Aqy pRmwqmw dI ikRpw nwl hI ilKx dw inmwxw ijhw Xqn krdI hW, ies Xqn nUM sPl krn ivc Awp sB dw sihXog hY[mn ivc pMjwb Aqy pMjwbI mW bolI dI hmySw cVHdI klw dyKx dI qmMnw zrUr r`KdI hW[pMjwbI mW bolI dI ijnI syvw ho jwvy auh QOVHI hI hY[ jy AwpW sB rl -iml ky pMjwbI bolI nMU ies dw bxdw siqkwr idvwvWgy iPr dUsry vI ies dI kdr krngy[

Awdr sihq,
Anmol kOr[

gOqm rwjw cMfIgVH

040204_shaheed1_100.jpg (4538 bytes)kOx pweygw kurbwnIAW dw shI mul ..?
- govrDn g`bI 

06/02/04

siqkwr Xog sMpwdk jI

'kOx pweygw kurbwnIAW dw shI mul' bhuq hI hlUxdw hoieAw lyK hY[ scmuc jdoN AsIN kwrigl dI lVweI ivc ShId hoey vIrW dy kPnW dI KrId leI irSvq KorI dIAW ^brW pVIAW sn qW iehI iKAwl AwieAw ik kI socdIAW hoxgIAW ShId hoey vIrW dIAW AwqmwvW [ Aslw KrIdx ivc irSvq[ ieh qW auh kWf hn ijhVy lokW swhmxy Awey[ Aysy kwPI swry hor vI kys hoxgy ijhVY Ajy qk nhIN Pvy gey[ keI vwrI ^br pVdy hW ik iek svqMrqw sYnwnI AwpxI ipClI aumr ivc AwriQk mMdI nwl hI mr igAw[ ipCy ijhy ShId audm isMG dy Gr dy jIAW bwry vI kuJ iesy qrW dIAW ^brW pVx sunx nUM imlIAW sn[ scmuc kOxpqvygw iehnW ShIdW dIAW kurbwnIAW dw mul!

gOqm rwjw cMfIgVH

govrDn g`bI

ieh sbk isKwaux vwly
- BUSn iDAwnpurI

06/02/04

fw kMdolw jI,

BuSn iDAwnpurI jI dw lyK ' sbk isKwaux vwly' pV ky mYnUM Awpxy skUl dy idn Xwd Aw gey[ auhnW idnW swfw vI iek AiDAwpk huMdw sI[ ijhVw keI bwrI swfIAW auMglW ivc ipnsl jW pYn bgYrw Psw ky qy auMglW Gut ky ausnUM GumwieAW krdw sI[ swfy skUl dw hYfmwstr keI bwrI gusy ivc Aw ky muMifAW nUM cuk cuk ky zmIn auqy mwirAw krdw sI[ keI swfy swQIAW dI keI vwrI lq bwh tut jwieAw krdI sI [ keI vwrI CotI CotI glqI aupr srdIAW dy idnW ivc prYnIAW mwr mwr hQ lwl kr dyxy jW swrw swrw idn kukV bxweI rKxw[aus hYfmwstr dIAW keI vwrI iSkwieqW vI kIqIAW geIAW pr auh nhIN mMinAW sI[ iPr AsIN v`fIAW jmwqW leI dUsry skUl ivc cly gey pr ausdw sbk isKwaux dw qrIkw brkrwr sI[ ausdy kwrnwimAW bwry bwd ivc vI keI ik`sy suxy[keI b`cy ausdI mwr qoN fridAW skUl Cf gey[

clo hux BwvyN knUMn bdl gey hn[skUlW ivc b`icAW nUM sbk isKaux ies qrW dI sjw nhIN id`qI jWdI hY[pr Ajy vI keI AiDAwpk Awpxw gusw k`F hI lYNdy hn[

scmuc ienswn nUM ienswn bxn ivc Ajy hor smW lgxw bwkI hY[ rb ^Yr kry !

govrDn g`bI

ruipMdrpwl iF`loN, brqwnIAw

06/02/04

Logic-Tark

Prior to writing in Punjabi I wrote poetry in English, plus am still writing a novel. I have an Advanced Level Eng List qualification. As a consequence my old work place bought me a 4,000 page English Dictionary. What was interesting was its introduction.

It stated that the English language has conquered the world because it accepts all cultures and assimilates all. It stated that there are officially 20 different types of English language, influenced by countries, culture and religions ( Christianity in the main but also Islam, Hindu etc). It stated as well as Standard English, there is British English, American English, Australian, Jamaican and Indian , just to name some of them.

Each of these has its own dialects ( especially in UK). There are officially over 1000 dialects. Each area has different words. Taking the UK alone, no one in London understands anything anyone in Birmingham says. Newcastle is even more distinct. And Americans have no hope of understanding Australian dialects or Scottish ones. there have been documentaries on UK TV about this. They concluded words are a combination of Intellectuals inventing them ( so its okay to do that), Writers creating them, and ordinary people altering them or adopting them form other sources.

So you see, whether you speak Pakistani Punjabi, Indian Punjabi or Sikh, Hindu and Muslim Punjabi ( Indeed Diaspora Punjabi) all are equally correct. We should have a dictionary like this too where entries are made showing the legitimacy of words regardless of them being Urdu, Sanskrit, Hindi , English or Sikh in nature. All are correct. That is why English has so many words and so many choices. Let's be secular about this.

For example lets say there was a Punjabi word for Space Ship, but it was different if you were in different regions, dialects or religions. Well all of them are correct , because some Punjabi uses them, regardless of Hindi, Urdu or English influence. SO all should be in dictionary, and we should stop bickering. The Indian Subcontinent has two things that keep it behind the West. One is corrupt Politians. The other is religion. Ignore both. Punjabi language is enriched by the variety of different words for the same thing.

Thing about it
Rupe

fw: guirMdr sroieAw, lMfn

05/02/04

i am really thankfull to raja dudhike for raising this important point. no doubt sikhism is different than punjabisim .why sikhs think that they r the sole proprieters of punjabi language and punjabi culture? don't u think we r ignoring the major chunk of punjabi language and punjabi culture - punjabis of pakistan. even in this site i m unable to see their representation. I m unable to decide whether we consider gurmukhi as a only major script for writing and reading punjabi. but i dont see many punjabi web sites written in arabic scipt punjabi?

i will appresiate if any of my punjabi brother or sister from pakistani punjab or its origin will exlain his her viewpoint on this issue.

i am also eager to know abt punjabi heroes (real life, not filmi heroes) like dulha bhatti , jagga. i dont know whether they were real heroes fought against establishment or just rebels .

if someone pl enlighten me abt them i will be really thankfull to him.

Dr.Gurinder saroya
london

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gurtej can we find a hero for punjab from our history? who will be acceptable equally in two punjabs, yesterday i was discussing abt punjabi heroes  with one of my pakistani punjabi friend. who could be  a real punjabi heroes , a punjabi legend abt whom we can tell stories to our children .

i was certain abt bhagat singh, but to my astonishment my pakistani friend told me that not many pakistani punjabis know abt him. then we talked abt dulha bhatti , but i think except for few lohri songs nobody talk abt dulha bhatti these days. then who could be a real punjabi hero who can tresspass the boundaries. could raja porus be a reall hero. my friend told me  discussion abt raja porus was taken place at world punjabi conference few yrs ago, but i dont know how many punjabis know abt heroism of king porus.

any other name jagga, jiona mor udham singh, kartar singh jan lal lajpat rai, but does any of the name is
acceptable among all the communities

bus aine naam hi ne----------

so who could be a real punjabi hero? can any body suggest.

gurinder saroya
london

suirMdr mwhl, lY~str (ieMglYNf)

05/02/04

^q AwieAw sohxy s~jxW dw …
kdy r~KnIAW qy kdy pVHnIAW …

gurqyj jI Aqy igAwnI krnYl isMG jI ^q ie~k suhwvxy TMFy hvw dy bu~ly vWg pRqIq hoey [ nhIN qW l~g irhw sI ik ijvyN hvw 'c AwksIjn Gt geI hovy ……hu~sV jhy 'c swh Gu~t irhw sI [

kwS ! FufIky vwly rwjy vIr qusIN vI Awpxy i^Awl myrI mW bolI pMjwbI 'c ilK skdy [ huMdI ik nw Pyr sony qy suhwgy vwlI g~l [ qy eyho ijhw hI mYN soc irhw sI mnjIq isMG dy ^q vwry ik is~Dw pMjwbI 'c nhIN sI [ eysy krky dws ny crcw CyVI sI ik ikhVy A~Kr vrqIey ? ^Yr ! pwTk vIrW kol ies vwry PYslw krn dw vkq nhIN sI [ AglI vwr jW ikqy Pyr shI ……

bwkI sMqoS kOr, siqnwm isMG, gurnwm isMG qy irMtU jI quhwfy i^Awl vI cMgy l~gy pr A&sos swfIAW A~KW qy socx SkqI cMgy i^AwlW nUM jldI bydwvw dyx dIAW AwdI ho cu~kIAW hn [

hwly mYN rjIAw rozI dI ic~TI dy vwry g~l krnI sI ik AMgryzI dI hnyrI myry swry vrky aufw ky lY geI …… qy mYN inMmo JuUxw ijhw ho muV hvw dy ru^ isr hox dI aufIk krn l~gw [ rozI ny pMjwbI sMgIq AMdr vDdI lcrqw au~qy gobrDn g~bI jI dy lyK vwry ivcwr ilKy sn .. (ijhdy sbMD iv~c swfI jQybMdI ny ies kohV dw mukwblw krn leI bcn b~Dqw pRgtweI hY) …..pr jnvrI dy A^Irly somvwr nUM rwj BuipMdr dIAW do lweInW ny quPwn KVHw kr id~qw qy sB ku~J iehdy vyg 'c hI vih igAw…[

"mW bolI hI ie`k AijhI bolI hY ijhVI AwpxI mW kolo nhIN is`KI jWdI" inrml isMG DONsI jI qoN mYN iehnW l&zW nUM QoVHw ijhw hor inKwrn dI bynqI leI kIqI Zusqw^I leI mw&I cWhWgw ik auh ies ibAwn nUM QoVHw srl krn qW ik myry nwl nwl bwkI hor pwTk vI smJ skx [ …. qy BweI gurjMt isMG jI isAwxy kihMdy ny ik " Ps geI qW Ptkx kwhdw " myrI slwh mMno qW dMdW Q~ly jIB dy ky bwkI dI vI k~tx dw hIAw kr hI lE …… qy hor kI ?

qy im~s pRIq isMG leI qW ieh hI suJwA hY ik pMjwbI bolxI is~Kx leI klwsW zrUr lwxIAW pYxgIAW [ ilKxI pVHnI BwvyN Awpxy Awp koiSS krn nwl is~KI jw skdI hY pr Su~D aucwrn leI AiBAws AiDAwpk qoN ibnW muSikl kMm l~gdw hY [ hW swfy swry pwTkW nUM pMjwbI bolxI is~Kx dy swDnW (irsorsz) v~lH zrUr iDAwn dyxw cwhIdY [ ho skdY jnmyjw jOhl jI ies sm~isAw dw h~l pihlW hI l~BI bYTy hox [ ijs dI swnUM vI loV pY rhI hY [ XunIvristI Aqy kwljW dy nOjvwnW leI pMjwbI dy isKWdrU-swDnW dI Gwt bhuq rVkdI hY [

Aqy A^Ir iv~c mYN igAwnI krnYl isMG jI dy SbdW v~lH AwauNdw hW[ auh ilKdy hn ik " ijhVy suihrd pwTk, pMjwbI BwSw bwry ipAwr jgwaux leI kdy kdy ilKdy hn, auhnW dy vlvly dI pRsMsw krdw hoieAw mYN auhnW nUM ies pRq`K imswl bwry sMkyq krnw cwhvWgw[ ik jy mn ivc s`cI lgn hovy qW auh iehnW mulkW ivc Aw ky vI, bIbI Anmol kOr vWg pMjwbIAq dI isKr nUM Coh skdy hn"[ siqkwrXog jIE ! ies lgn dI cuAwqI lwaux dy hI qW AsIN XqnW 'c hW ik pwTk qy vIro -- BYxoN brwey imhrbwnI pMjwbI 'c ilKo [ AsIN qW inrMqr hokw dy rhy hW ik beI AMgryzI 'c Cpx leI bySumwr A^bwrW, rswly qy vY~bsweItW hn au~Qy trweI mwro qy dUijAW nUM d~so ik swfy i^Awl qy socW kI hn [ r~b dy vwsqy ie~k qW bydwZ QW rihx idE [ jy swfw ikhw nhIN BwauNdw jW smJ AwauNdw qW ies 5AwbI fOt kOm dw 'mnorQ' hI pVH lE [ auhdy pMjvyN pYhry iv~c AMgryzI dy SukInW v~lH hI ieSwrw kIqw igAw hY [

so igAwnI jI pMjwbI leI icxg pYdw kIqy ibnW 'isKrW Cohxw' AsMBv hY [ AsIN qW cwhuMdy hW ik swfy b~cy vI ieh ilKqW pVHn Aqy koiSS krn ik pMjwbI 'c ilKx nhIN qW kMm sy kMm ivdySI swihq nMU hI pMjwbI iv~c aulQwaux 'c swfI m~dd krn ……

i^mW Aqy pMjwbI 'c ilKx vwilAW dy bhuq swry DMnvwd sihq ……
suirMdr mwhl, lY~str (ieMglYNf)

sMqoK isMG, AstRylIAw

ieh sbk isKwaux vwly
- BUSn iDAwnpurI

05/02/04

ipAwry fw. kMdolw jIau

BUSn iDAwnpurI dw ihrdy vyDk, AqI mwrmk lyK ‘ieh sbk isKwaux vwLy’ pVH ky bhuq smw mn pRySwn irhw[ ieh kuJ pMjwb dy TwixAW ivc, pulsIAW h`QoN huMdw qW suxdy Aw rhy sW pr ividAw mMdrW ivc gurUAW h`QoN vI Pu`lW smwn b`cy kohy jWdy sux ky kyhVw p`Qr idl hY jo rox qoN ^ud nUM rok lvy gw! l`gdw hY ik ieh kuJ iDAwnpurI jI dy bcpn dy smy qoN hI huMdw Aw irhw hY qy hYrwnI hY ik Ajy q`k ies ksweIpuxy nUM rokx leI smwj v`loN koeI kdm nhI cuikAw igAw[

kuJ smw pihlW rwm srUp AxKI dI jIvnI ‘mLyH JwVIAW’ ivcoN iek kWf ‘myrw snmwn’ ivc swQI muxSIAW bwry kuJ Sbd ilKy gey sn qy mMnx ivc nhI sn AwauNdy[ pr ieh do GtnwvW idl cIrn vwLIAW hn[ jy muxSIAW nUM kuJ Srm nhI, ividAk mihkmy dy rwj r`b su`qy pey hn qW mwipAW nUM qW jwgxw cwhIdw hY! mwsUmW dw srIrk, mwnsk, qy kwmk SoSx krn vwiLAW nUM dyS dy kwnUMn qy BweIcwrk irvwieq Anuswr FukvIN sjw dyxI cwhIdI hY[ Swied, “qulsI dws ZrIb dI koeI nw pu`Cy bwq[“ bwq vWg ieh zulm huMdw hI lwcwr mwipAW dy b`icAW nwl hovy jo zwlm nUM sjw dyx qoN Asmr`Q hox!

pMjwb ivc srkwrI qy ZYr srkwrI Aiqvwd dy idnW dOrwn mY BUSn jI dIAW kivqwvW, smy dI hwlq nUM drswaux vwLIAW pVHdw irhw hW qy auhnW dI ilKq dw pRsMsk hW[

r`b dw l`K l`K Sukr hY ik skUl dI pVHweI krn qoN vWJy rihx kwrn myrw vwh Aijhy bu`cVW nwL nhI ipAw[

sMqoK isMG

rwjw Fu`fIky

04/02/04

sat sri akal to all the punjabis !

5abi.com is a fantastic punjabi site and i really appreciate that you worry about our mother-tongue.

i could not understand why some readers mixes up punjabi-ism and sikhism ?? you all are very intelligent people- please try to serve punjabi !!
regards
Raja dhudike

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

04/02/04

5AwbI.kOm qy iek vwr Pyr crcw iCVI[ iek ivSy au~qy keI pwTkW ny ivcwr pyS kIqy[ sroieAw horW iek nvW moV id`qw[ hux s: mnjIq isMG XU.pI   (KOry ieh nW shI vI hY jW nhIN) ny iek hor mu`dw joV id`qw hY[ ijvyN ik A`gy keI vwr hoieAw hY, hux vI QoVI bhuq BVws k`F ky muAwmlw TMFw pY jwxw hY[ auswrU bihs isrP suPinAW dI dunIAW iv`c hI guAwcI gW vW| iPrdI rih jwvygI[

ieh koeI mwmUlI g`l nhIN hY[ ieh iksy vI kOm dy bOiDk qOr qy ApMg hox dI bVI pRq`K inSwnI hY[ ies dy izMmyvwr vI AsIN hI hW[ ieko vwrI pMj mu~idAW qy bihs nhIN ho skdI[ sB qoN pihlI loV AwpxI pIVHI hyT sotw Pyr ky, koeI vI iek mslw-mu`dw l`Bx dI hY[ ies ru`ky rwhIN mYN 5AwbI.kOm dy pwTkW nUM s`dw dyvWgw ik AwE rl-iml koeI iek mslw-mu`dw l`BIey Aqy aus au~qy auswrU bihs krky iksy is`ty qy phuMcIey[

5AwbI.kOm dI s`Q au~qy Awp jI dy suJwey msly-mu`dy dI aufIk iv`c,

gurqyj isMG, vYilMgtn-inaUzIlYNf

krnYl isMG igAwnI- i&lwfYl&IAw

04/02/04

AwdrxIX fwktr kMdolw swihb,

keI idnW qoN, hr roz pwTkW duAwrw ilKI nok Jok ivc iek dUsry qy nukqw cInI qoN isvw koeI in`gr g`l pVHn nUM nhI iml rhI[ pqw nhI pwTk Awp v`loN Cwpy swihq dIAW vMngIAW vI pVHdy hn ik nhI[

mYN Awp v`loN kIqI iek bhuq mh`qv pUrn g`l leI Awp dI srwhuxw kIqy ibnw nhI rih skdw[ jy mYN quhwnUM iek King-maker AwKxw cwhvW qW ies ivc koeI AiqkQnI nhI hovygI[

kuJ mhIny pihlW bIbI Anmol kOr dIAW iekw-dukw khwxIAW pVHn ivc AwauNdIAW rhIAW[ pr ijs qrW Awp ny www.5abi.com ivc ausdIAW rcnwvW nUM lgwqwr Xog sQwn dy ky ies lyKkw nUM h`lw SyrI id`qI hY, ausdI lyKxI, idnW ivc hI pRbIxqw hwsl kr geI jwpdI hY[

kuJ ruJyivAW kwrn mYN ausdI ipClI rcnw kOVw s`c pVHnw Bu`l igAw sW[ A`j jdoN ausdI ihrdy-vyDk khwxI Aw&q dI rwq pVHI, qW jI kIqw aus qoN pihlI Composition vI pVH ky vyKW[ pVH ky mihsUs kIqw ik Anmol kOr, hux iek mkbUl lyKkw mMnI jwx dI smr``Qw rKdI hY[ AwSw hY SIGr hI, ausdIAW swrIAW rcnwvW b`JvyN Awkwr ivc pVHn nUM iml skxgIAW[

ijhVy suihrd pwTk, pMjwbI BwSw bwry ipAwr jgwaux leI kdy kdy ilKdy hn, auhnW dy vlvly dI pRsMsw krdw hoieAw mYN auhnW nUM ies pRq`K imswl bwry sMkyq krnw cwhvWgw[ ik jy mn ivc s`cI lgn hovy qW auh iehnW mulkW ivc Aw ky vI, bIbI Anmol kOr vWg pMjwbIAq dI isKr nUM Coh skdy hn[

mYN Es kuVI nUM, ausdI jigAwsw qy kTn imhnq leI bhuq bhuq vDweI idMdw hW[

krnYl isMG igAwnI- i&lwfYl&IAw

mnjIq isMG XU pI, Bfrq

04/02/04

mnjIq isMG, XU pI, ieMzIaf

afp jI dy vYbsfiet Auqy jo pqr Cpdy hn AunF nUM pVky bhuq hfsf vI afAuNdf hY aqy qrs vI.

sfrI gurbfxI mfns kI jfq nUM iek kihMdI hY aqy bMdy nUM sMdysL idMdI hY ik BfeI imwTq rK, ipafr kr, nPrq nUM mfr, dusLmnI nUM mfr, bdlyKorI nUM mfr. pr sfzy kuJ isK nPrq aOr eIrKf ivc hI Bujy njr aONdy hn. ieh BfeI isrP iek aK nfl hI dyKdy hn aqy dUsrI nUM iblkul bMd krI bYTy hn. asIN jo ik isK hF aOr sfry Bfrq dy hr prFq ivc cMgy kfrobfr krdy bYTy hF aOr sfzy vzy vzyry hYQy hI rhy aOr sfnUM kdy koeI qklIp nhIN sI afeI ik koeI ihMdU isK vflf svfl nhIN sI afieaf.

pr jo kusL sMq iBMzrFvflf aqy akflIaF ny 84 ivc kIqf qF sfnUM bhuq prysfnI afeI. jdoN asIN ienhF ktrpMQIaF dIaF pqr pVHdy hF qF ieh smJdy hF ik ieh lok afp qF pqf nhIN ikQy ikQy vsy hoey hn sLYd amrIkf knyzf ivc hoxgy pr eynhF nUM asIN lKF dI igxqI ivc XU pI, klkqy, mD prdys, bMby idlI ivc cMgI rotI KFdy nhIN BONdy. ieh cONhdy hn ik asIN AujV jfeIey asIN luty jfeIey asIN pty jfeIey ies leI ieh BfeI hr vyly hvfeI glF hI krdy hn. Bfrq sfzf dys hY ijQy asIN rih rhy hF sdIaF qoN. musLklF qF aONdIaF hI hn.

pMjfb ivwc qF bfdl df rfj irhf kI pMjfb surg bx igaf? kI tOhVf bfdl duDDoqy hn? kI ismrnjIq isMG mfn nfl sfry dyvqy hI rihMdy hn? E BfeI sfnUM arfm nfl jI lYx idE!

gurbfxI pVo aqy ies nUM ivcfro. ies nUM jIvn ivc Zfl ky dyKo. dunIaf vl njr mfro ik ikvyN bdl geI hY. ieh msF asIN afpxI iejq bhfl kIqI hY hux muV ky Pyr suqIaF klF nf jgfE. agr ieh dys sfnUM qMgI dyNdf hovy qF asIN 70-80 lK isK pfgl nhIN ik XU pI ibhfr bMgfl ivc rhI jfvFgy. asIN sB jfxdy hF, mUrK nhIN. qusIN afpxI akl afpxy kol rKo. pMjfb nUM akflIaF ny luitaf qF kFgrs nUM muslmfnF jF asfeIaF ny nhIN ijqfieaf sgoN pMjfb dy isKF ny hI ijqfieaf hY. isK cMgy Bly vsdy aF Bfrq sfry dy ivc, qusIN afpxI akl sFB ky afpny kol hI rKo. quhfzI akl ny 83-84 qoN lY ky pMdrf sfl sfzf cMgf Gfx isKF df krfieaf hY hux hor rihx idE. drbfr sfhb AyuWqy hmlf srkfr ny kIqf pr krfieaf aOhnf ny ijhVy drbfr sfhb nUM iklf bxfeI bYTy sn. ieh gl vI mMnx lgo ik drbfr sfhb ivc qopF bIV ky ikhVI isKI vflI gl krn zhy sI. hr vyly srkfr nUM hI dos dyeI jfx vI TIk nhIN. hux vI agr isKI nUM bcOxf hY qF drvfr sfhb nUM pOlItYks qoN ajfd krfE. isKI nUM srkfr nhIN Zfh skdI sgoN ktr aqy grm grm glF krn vfly mfrdy hn.

26 jnvrI bfry ikMqU prMqU krn dI kI quk bxdI hY? dys sfzf hY 26 jnvrI vI sfzI hY. jyhvy afKdy hn ik isKF ny sivMDfn Auqy hsqfksLr nhIN kIqy AuhI iesy sMvDfn dI shuM Kf ky aYm pI bxI jFdy hn pr isKF nUM BVkOx leI sMvDfn nUM nfkfrI jFdy hn.

ieh jo kOVIaF glF krdy hn eyhnF nUM kho ik sfzy qy qrs krn, eyhnf df kusL nhIN jfxf, sfzf nuksfn hI krOxgy. pYhlF vI 84-85 ivc sfzf nuksfn eyhnF kr ky hoieaf. eyhnF nUM jy sfzf iPkr hY qF iek vfr XU pI ivc af ky sfzI sLfn dyK lYx ik sfnUM eyQy kI qklIp hY. agr sfnUM qklIp ivc pOxf hY qf eyhnF kOVI gl krn vfilaF ny hI pOxf hY.

sfzf ihMdUaF nfl koeI JgVf nhIN pr eyh lok puaf rhy hn.
afpdf pfTk
mnjIq isMG XU pI

gurjMt isMG iF`lo, AmrIkw

04/02/04

prdys - iek iKAwl!

A`j cwry pwsy dyKidAw-dyKidAw kuJ hor vI dyiKAw, ijs nUM hr koeI jwxdw hY! ijs dw hr koeI cwhvwn hY! jwx leI iqAwr hY, ij`Qy pYsw hI ipAwr hY! auh hY prdys[

A`j-k`l hr koeI prdys jwx leI kwhlw hY! pr koeI Awpxy leI qy Awpxy mW ipau leI qy Awpxy dys leI ie`k vwrI vI nhI socdw, bs prdys cly jweIey! iksy qrw vI prdys jw ky pYsy kmw ky ilaux dI ie`Cw huMdI hY! pr ie`s qrw nhI huMdw! au `Qo dy ho ky rih jwdy hY! AwpixAw qo dUrIAw pY jwdIAw hY! mW ipau qy BYyx Brwvw iv`co ipAwr G`t jwdw hY! Pyr pUry dy pUry bdl jwdy Aw Awpxy Awp nUM ivsvws nhI huMdw! ieh sB iks qrw ho igAw! Pyr ieh sB au `Qy jogw ho ky rih jwdw hY! auhI ib`lW KricAw qo ielwvw hor keI skImw iv`c Ps jwdw hY! ijhVIAw aus nuM vwps nhI Awaux idMdIAw!

jdo ie`k idn Acwnk koeI Awpxw nyVlw iv`CV jwdw hY! jW koeI ibmwrI Acwnk hmlw kr dyvy tweIm nw dyvy iehnw dy mUhry pYsw ikMnw vI hovy G`t jwdw hY[ Pyr aus nUM sB kuJ duAwrw Xwd Awaudw hY! ijs nUM iksy idn auhI TuKrw ky quirAw sI ! auhI Awpxy l`gx l`gdy Aw myrw dys, myrw vqn ,myrI mW, myrw ipau hI sB kuJ hY! ieQy kuJ vI nhI Pyr socdw hY!

dys prdys iv`c bhuq Prk hY! au `Qy ipAwr vI hY pYsw vI hY ! ie`Qy qw pYysw hI hY ! hor kuJ nhI mynUM nhI cwhIdw! kI krnw iehnw pYisAw dw ijMnw ny KusIAw swrIAw Ko leIAw ieMnw pYsw nhI cwhIdy! mY qw AwpixAw iv`c hI TIk sI! vqn qw vqn hY! AsI ikqy vI cly jweIey pr ie`Qo dI iK`c vwps lY AwaudI hY! pYsw ijMdgI dIAw Awm jrUrqw pUrIAw krn leI hY! sB kuJ nhI AMq bs ho jwdI hY! socdw hY QoVw pYsw huMidAw hoieAw vI Awpxo qo dUr nhI hoxw nhI cwhIdw!

gurjMt isMG iF`lo

su`K rMDwvw

04/02/04

sat sri akal,

i am sukh randhawa i checked out ur site....its really fantastic i just wanna say that keep it like that.... .and waheguru tuhaanoo chardi kala vich
rakhe........

sat sri akal

sukh randhawa

rozI r`jIAw, kYnyfw

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- govrDn g`bI

03/02/04

sMpwdk jI,

govrDn g`bI dy lyK ' blwqkwr Sbd dw duraupXog' bhuq vDIAw sI pr iesdy kuJ ivcwrW nwl mYN sihmq nhIN hW[ jy iek AOrq ieMJ dw nwtk krdI hY qW iesdw ieh mqlv nhIN ik qusIN ies blwqkwr vrgI ibmwrI nUM jVoN mukwx vwly Awpxy hIilAW nUM rok lau[ hjwrW hI Aorqw dI dunIAW Br ivc iej`q lutI jw rhI hY[ ies smwijk klMk nUM Kqm krn leI krVy kwnUMn bxwaux dI sKq jrUrq hY pr Bwrq vrgy ivkisq dyS dy lokW nUM sYks isiKAw muheIAw krvwaux ivc vI srkwr nUM kdm auTwaxy cwhIdy hn[ tIvI qy PYSn ny vI ies ivrqI nUM vDwieAw hY[

glqI hovy qW iKmW cwhuNdI hW

rozI r`jIAw
kYnyfw

guirMdr isMG

03/02/04

few days ago i was watching a documnetary on BBC regarding formation of state of israel. only two thousand influential jews in the constituency of US prsident forced US to diameterically change its stance on giving recogntisation to independent state of israel. isnt there sufficent influential sikhs in US, uk , and other parts of world? wht r they doing to improve the sikh image in world? had they ever gone beyond giving chanda to terrorist organisations and giving money to built gurdwaras and akhand paths?

i need suggestions at this forum abt best ways to improve sikh images in world? and whts the best way to do service to sikhism- opening schools in punjab, opening hosptal , or provoding good quality education to sikh youth?

please write ur suggestions.

rnvIr isMG shoqw, hWg kWg

03/02/04

Dear Readers,
Sat Sari Akaal

We, i.e. all the Sikhs should get together now to oppose the French Government's proposal to Ban Turbans in France. Although the proposed law is mainly aimed at Muslims, it specifies that any visible forms of displaying religion (including head scarves and Turbans) are to be banned, the Sikhs got caught unexpectedly. We are in such a sorry state of affairs that the French Government did not even realize that Sikhs are maintaining a presence in France and thus no Sikh representative was invited to discuss the proposals-neither did any Sikh body volunteered to join the discussion group.

I propose that we all (Sikhs living in India, Canada, US, UK, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Indonesia, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Middle-East, etc) choose a day when all of us make our feelings known to the French Government through its Diplomats. This can be done by marching in Turbans (an appeal extended to non-turbaned Sikhs as well-please tie turbans on this day to show solidarity) to the French Embassies/Consulates and presenting our discontent along with material explaining about Sikh faith and its code. If any reader is offended at these views not been given in Gurmukhi, please accept my apologies and do a favour of translating it into Punjabi and repost it on 5abi.com. The purpose is to get a maximum support for the cause.The editors of 5abi.com can take lead by contacting the presidents of all the Gurdwaras in the countries mentioned above and fix a date for such demonstration. If required the Muslim brothers should also be informed about the matter and requested to march along to show support. I think the best scenario would be for SGPC, Akali Dal and/or Mr Ramuwalia arranging a massive demonstration in front of French Embassy in New Delhi. The Sikh professionals are also requested to support the cause.

The turban is an indispensable part of me and I believe there are number of other Sikhs who share my views. I may not be an extremely religious man but I do support and will continue to support Turbans. Sadly the Sikh Population with Turbans is dwindling fast but let us keep the tradition alive till we can. If it is the French Government today, other Governments will follow the suit tomorrow. Some thing has to be done-fast...

Regards,

Ranveer Singh Sahota
Hong Kong

kumwrI pRIq isMG

03/02/04

Dear Sir/Madam

I really do hope you can help me, I am 23 years old, and I am looking to learn punjabi, I can understand it relatively well, but speaking is very difficult for me.

I was hoping for some guidance either via adult classes or any audio tapes that I may purchase.

I really hope you can be of help as I have searched everywhere and havent ben able to find good language learning material nor any adult classes.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Hope to hear from you soon.

Yours faithfully
Miss Preet Singh

jIvnjoq isMG mwlvw

03/02/04

"1857 dw gdr Aqy is`K POjW"

sMn 1857 dy gdr nUM BwvyN ihMdusqwn dI AjwdI nwl joiVAw jw irhw hY pr ies dw sbMD ihMdosqwn dI AzwdI nwl iblkul nhIN hY[ ies dw sbMD isrP ihMdU Drm dI mwx mrXwdw nwl hI hY ikauNik aus smyN jo bwrW bor dI bMdUk dw rONd bxdw sI ausdy mUhrly pwsy gW dI crbI lweI jWdI sI Aqy jd ies rONd (kwrqUs) nUM rweIPl iv`c pwieAw jWdw sI qW gW dI cmVI nUM pihlW lwihAw jWdw sI qW auh nwlI iv`c iP`t hMudw sI[ keI vwr jldI iv`c cmVI nUM mMUh nwl lwhuxw pYNdw sI[ iesy krky k`tV ihMdU POjI ies dw ivroD krdy sn ikauNik aunHW nUM gW dw mws mUMh nUM lwauxw pYNdw sI[ hOlI-hOlI ihMdU POjIAW iv`c ies dw gu`sw vDdw igAw Aqy ieh bgwvq dw ruK AKiqAwr kr igAw pr ies bgwvq nUM horW DrmW dw sm`rQn nW hox krky AMgRyjW ny sKqI nwl dbwA id`qw[ A`j ieiqhws qoN Axjwx lok ies nUM ihMdosqwn dI AjwdI nwl joV rhy hn Aqy ieh kih rih hn ik aus smyN is`K POjW ny Aqy pMjwb iv`c iksy vI is`K jQybMdI ny ies dw sm`rQn nhIN kIqw[

AsIN ieQy ieh d`sx dw Xqn krWgy ik is`K POjW Aqy is`KW ny ies dw sm`rQn ikauN nhIN kIqw? jy AsIN QoVw ijhw ipCy ieiqhws v`l nzr mwrIey qW mhWrwjw rxjIq isMG jI dI mOq sMn 1839 iv`c ho geI sI, ^wlsw rwj dw AMq sMn 1849 iv`c ho igAw sI Aqy AMgRyjW ny pMjwb au`pr mukMml kbzw kr ilAw sI[ sMn 1839-1849 q`k dy dsW swlW iv`c phwVI fogirAW Aqy XU.pI. dy imsrW dI gdwrI dy kwrn ^wlsw POj iv`c AMdrUnI jMg cldI rhI[ aus smyN smu`cw ihMdosqWn pwsy bYT ky qmwSw dyKdw irhw[ AMdro-AMdrI ^wlsw rwj dI smwpqI leI AMgRyjW nwl goNdW gMud dw irhw[ AwKr AMgRyjW nwl ^wlsw POj dI AwKrI lVweI sR. Swm isMG AtwrI dI AgvweI iv`c mu`dkI dy AsQWn qy hoeI[ies lVweI iv`c AMgRyjW dw swQ smu`cy ihMdosqwn ny id`qw[ jo vI ihMdU irAwsqW sn aunHW dIAW ihMdU POjW jo mrh`ty, gVvwlI Aqy ibhwrI sn sB iek`Ty ho ky AMgRyj POjW nwl iml ky ^wlsw POj dy ivru`D lV rhIAW sn[ ieiqhws gvwh hY ik sR. Swm isMG AtwrI vwly dI AgvweI iv`c ^wlsw POjW ny AMgRyjW Aqy smu`cy ihMdosqwnIAW nUM ie`k vwr BwjVW pw id`qIAW sn[ ies KUnI lVweI nUM aus smyN dy ie`k dwrSnk kvI "Swh muhMmd" jo ky ^wlsw POjW dw hmdrd sI ny cwr lweInW ieauN iliKAw ik:-

jMg ihMd pMjwb dw hox l`gw,
donoN bwdSwhI POjW BwrIAW ny[
A`j hovy srkwr qW mu`l pwvy,
ijhVIAW ^wlsy ny qyZW mwrIAW ny[

hux ieQy ie`k g`l smJx vwlI hY ik Swh muhMmd ny jMg AMgRyjW iv`c nhIN iliKAw sgoN ihMd nwl iliKAw hY ikauNik smu`cw ihMdosqwnI ^wlsw rwj nUM smwpq krn leI iek`Tw ho ky AMgRyj POjW dI mdd leI AwieAw hoieAw sI[ AwKr srdwr Swm isMG AtwrI dI ShIdI qoN bwAd Aqy ihMdU fogirAW dI gdwrI kwrn Kwlsw POjW hwr geIAW[ ies lVweI qoN bwAd AMgRyjW ny sUJvwn nIqI Anuswr ^wlsw POjW nUM bw-iezq mwx snmwn nwl AMgRyj POjW iv`c BrqI hox leI kih id`qw Aqy ^wlsw POjW ny vI ies ApIl nUM pRvwn kr ilAw[ AMgRyjW vloN ^wlsw POjW dIAW v`KrIAW is`K rYjmYtW bxw id`qIAW Aqy is`K Drm dIAW rhurIqW iv`c rihx dI pUrI Ku`lH id`qI geI[

hux ieh kihxw ik is`K POjW ny sMn 1857 dy gdr iv`c ihMdU POjW dI mdd nhIN kIqI, ies dw PYslw Awp pwTk krn[ sMn 1849 iv`c ienHW hI ihMdU POjW ny ^wlsw POjW dy iKlw& AMgRyjW dw swQ id`qw sI Aqy pMjwb nUM qbwh krn dw Xqn kIqw sI[ iPr A`T swl bwAd 1857 iv`c gW dy mws nUM mUMh nwl nW lwaux krky jo bgwvq kIqI sI, is`K POjW nUM 1849 dw ihMdU POjW qy pUrw gu`sw sI[ Awpxy A`T swl purwxy gu`sy nUM j`g zwihr kridAW ihMdU POjW dw swQ nhIN id`qw[ AsIN dwd idMdy hW aunHW is`K POjIAW nUM ijnHW ny ihMdUAW vloN ^wlsw rwj dI krvweI qbwhI nUM pUry A`T swl Xwd riKAw[ ieh v`KrI g`l hY ik A`j smu`cI is`K kOm sRI drbwr swihb au`pr jUn 1984 iv`c kIqw ihMdU POjW vloN hmlw, id`lHI Aqy hor SihrW iv`c is`KW dy kqlyAwm nUM Bu`l ky rswql iv`c su`qI peI hY[

jIvnjoq isMG mwlvw

amrjIq isMG jrmnI

02/02/04

sMpfdk aqy pfTkF nUM siq sRI akfl,

suirMdrpfl ivrk ny isrP Auh dwsx dI koisLsL kIqI hY jo iswKF nfl hoieaf hY aqy jo awgy ho irhf hY . sroieaf jI ieMzIan hox df mfx iswKF nMU iks qrF ho skdf hY jd ik ieMzIan sMivDfn anusfr iswK kysfDfrI ihMdU hn.  jy qusIN afpxy afp nUM ihMdU jF kysfDfrI ihMdU smJdy ho qF ieh ivcfr quhfzy leI vDIaf ho skdy hn , pr jo lok afpxy afp nUM alwg kOm smJdy hn AuhnF Auqy iksy nMU vI afpxy ivcfr nhIN Qopxy cfhIdy . ieMzIan hox df mfx krn vfilaF nUM pqf hoxf cfhIdf hY ik 1984 ivwc iswK kqlyafm dy dosLIaF nMU ikhVIaF sjfvF hoeIaF . iswK nOjvfnF nMU sLryafm JUTy puils kysF mukfbilaF ivc mfr mukf idwqf igaf, AuhnF ivwcoN bhuiqaF df sbMD iksy KfVkU jF awqvfdI jQybMdI nfl nhIN sI ijhnF pirvfrF dy mYNbr bydosLy ies ieMzIan srkfr dy aqwvfd df isLkfr hoey hn Auh iks gwl df mfx krn . ieMdrf gFDI dy kql dy dosL ivwc PFsIaF hoeIaF nUM 15 sfl ho cuwky hn pr iswKF dy kfqlF nUM AuWcy ahuidaF df mfx idwqf igaf . PrFs ivc dsqfr Auqy pfbMdI leI kfnMUn bxfAux leI dsMbr dIaF iqafrIaF ho rhIaF hn pr ieMzIaf srkfr vloN awj qk koeI phuMc nhIN kIqI geI. 31 jnvrI nUM pYirs ivwc hoey mujfhry ivc vI koeI nhIN phuMicaf .

srdfr ismrnjIq isMG mfn qoN ielfvf koeI iswK afgU nhIN afieaf, ikAuNik AuhnF nUM afpxy msilaF qoN ivhl hI ikwQy hY.

amrjIq isMG jrmnI

sMqoS kOr, siqnwm isMG,gurnwm isMG qy irMtU

02/02/04

vIr ruipMdr iFloN mogw jI,

iehnW g~lW dw hux koeI Pwiedw nhI jo Awp jI ilK rhy ho[ qusI iek qrPy dI g~l krdy
ho[ ieh qW Awp ilK rhy ho ky iek isK nUM 35 ihMdU AwauNdy hn, Swied ieh lPj sMq iBMfrWvwly dy sn[ieh qW AsI vI jwxdy hW ky ieh sB glq hY[ ihMdU vI swfy hI BYx BweI hn[ mY vI ihMdU pRIvwr nwl qlukwq rKdI hW pr myry pqI srdwr hn[ mY vI sMqW dI aupwSk hW[

pr ieh ibAwn sMqW ny ikMnW hwlwqW iv~c idqw Swied Awp nhI jwxdy[ ieh ibAwn auhnW dw aus vkq dw idqw hY jd AMimRqsr iv~c hrbMs lwl KMnw ieh nwhry mwrdw sI ky k~C,kVw,kMgw  ikRpwn, D~k idAW gy pwiksqwn[ iPr auhnW bwry Awp ikauN cup ho[ jd idlI iv~c swnUM mwirAw myry Gr dy jIA idlI iv~c mry hn qy rjIv gWDI ny ikhw sI ky jd koeI drKq igrdw hY qW bhuq Gwh PUs hyTW Aw ky Kqm ho jWdw hY, Bwv jy ieMdrw gWDI mrI hY qW is~K vI mrn gy[ ies KUnI hnyrI iv~c myrw jyT mwirAw igAw sI[ iek vIr dwrw iSkwgo vI ilKdy hn ky BwvyN kuJ vI ho jwvy , ikMny vI mwry gey hox iPr vI ieMfIAn hox qy PKr krnW cwhIdw hY[ vIr dwrw jI lgdw hY quhwnUM koeI AYsI s~t l~gI nhI, jd l~gy gI ies qrW ilKxo ht jwaugy[

AsI qmwSbIn hW qy dUjy dw qmwSw dyKxw swfI iPqrq jyhI bx geI hY[ pr jd Awp qy bxdI hY
qW jw ky swnUM Akl AwauNdI hY[ glqIAW dI iKmw[ eyvyN purwxy murdy AKwV ky qusI iPr ihMdU is~Kw iv~c pwVw pwaux dI koiSS kr rhy ho[ ieh duD ijhVw 1984 vyly Put igAw sI msW hI pnIr bxn l~gw hY, r~b dy vwsqy ies nUM pnIr bxn idau[

sMqoS kOr, siqnwm isMG,gurnwm isMG qy irMtU

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

02/02/04

hello,

IN refrence to my sikh veer letter that sikhs have never approved indian consititutional since 1950, Here i dont understand of which sikhs he is talking about,the sikhs some lead punjab government now and sworn themselves as head of the state by sworning according to indian law or aboutthat sikhs who runned the punjab state from 1997_2002, my friend i want to tell one thing that either sikhs from congress party or from akali party they make govenment according to indian law and act , none sikh from congress and akali party have denied to sworn acoording to indian law and act , or my friend is taking about the sikhs who elect their leaders according to vote of right some come under indian act right to vote, or my sikh veer is talking about the leaders some always talk against india but sworn themselv as member of delhi darbar acoording to indian law, or my veer is talking about sikhs some sign under marriege certificate that according to indian marriege act they have registred as married and all this comes under indian consitution law, so really i am unclear which of sikhs have never approved indian law since 1950, please make it clear.
from
rupinder dhillon moga(NORWAY)

sroieAw

01/02/04

to mr virk and mr satnam singh

satkarjog sardar sahib,

tuhada khat padia, te tuhade khat di tarif karan walean nu bhi padia, bada bura lagia, tuhade warge sikhan karke hi aaj sikh kaum aah din dekh rahi hai. kaden socheia hai . world map te sikhan di ki haiseiat hai. u people r staying abroad. ur mind, ur intellect, ur intelligence is not under the control of indian govt. tell me how many sikh nobel prize winner, booker prize winner or oscar winners do u know? forget abt oscar or noble prize! can u please tell me whts literacy rate in sikhs? now u will give a argument that indian govt does want sikh youth to be educated? but can u please explain abt the state of
affairs of khalsa colleges? do u know whts the admission criteria in -guru ramdas medical college?or can u explain me the cigrette smoking (turbaned) sikhs in southhall or new york

do u ever tried to know the reasons behind increase in female foetocide in punjab? do u know last year there were 30 percent vacant seats in punjab enginerring college? is it the fault of indian govt if there is continous increase in alcohol consumption and drug abuse in punjab?

do u think we deserve respect just because we r sikhs? do u think nymphomaniacs like khuswant sikh and sycophants like harkishan sikh surjeet represnts sikhs? if not that who represents sikhs? now dont blame on our leaders? u can also be a leader wht do u think just by blaming indian govt we can get rid of our short comings?

SAROYA

sMdIp isMG gryvwl, nwrvy

01/02/04

If you do not already know, a law is in the process of being passed in France to prevent people expressing  their faith in a visual way in public institutions  such as schools.(It is in fact an amendment to an old law.) For Sikh children this means that they will not  be able to wear turbans or have beards (as this  clarification was recently made). For any Sikh this is  outrageous as it shows a complete lack of respect and understanding of the faith (not to mention many others such as Judaism/Islam) and at the very least is  against basic human rights, I could go on and on.... If you feel as strongly about this as I do, please sign this petition and send it on to anyone you think shares the basic beliefs of freedom...

http://www.petitiononline.com/sikh5555/petition.html
You can find more at www.unitedsikhs.org

Sundeep Singh Grewal
Norway
Oslo

gurU nwnk is~K suswietI

01/02/04

ieh bhuq KuSI vwlI g~l hY ik jOhn pOp ny dsqwr dy mwmly iv~c is~KW dI hmwieq kIqI hY[cMgw hoeygw jykr ies sunyhy nUM sB dI jwxkwrI vwsqy hUbhU vY~b swiet qy Cwp id~qw jwey qWik loV pYx qy ies dI vrqoN kIqI jw sky[
gurU nwnk is~K suswietI

siqnwm isMG

31/01/04

vIr suirMdrpwl ivrk dw K~q bhuq vDIAw hY[ aus ny Ajwd Bwrq iv~c ijQy is~KW nwl D~kw ho irhw hY, aus bwry ilKx dI koiSS kIqI hY[ Bwrq iv~c jo srdwr dI iejq hY ies bwry d~sx dI jrUrq nhI hY, Awp swry hI jwxdy ho[ pr iPr vI jo vIr hwly vI iefIAn hox qy PKr mihsUs krdy hn, kI bilaU stwr, idlI dMigAW nUM Bul gey hn[ pMjwb iv~c hjwrW dI igxqI iv~c isK nOjuAwnW nUM mrdw dyKx vwilau, hwly vI ieMfIAn hox qy PKr krdy ho[ jy swnUM hwly vI soJI nhI AweI iPr kdy vI nhI Aw skdI[ iek vIr ny iliKAw hY ky pMjwb ieMfIAw dw iek ihsw hY, pr ihsw qy pwiksqwn vI ieMfIAw dw hI hY, iPr aus bwry kI ilKo gy[ kdy mhwrwjw rxjIq isMG dw rwj huMdw sI qy ieh ieMfIAw aus dw iek ihsw sI[ vIr jIau ieh ihsy iksy dy nhI hn[ A~j jy pMjwb nUM AsI ihMdosqwn dw ih~sw mMndy hW qy k~l nUM ieh ihsw nhI vI rih skdw[

k~l q~k APgwinsqwn iv~c qwlIbwn sn qy A~j auh ihsw iksy hor dw hY[ pMjwb pMjwbIAW dw hY, iksy ihMdosqwn dw ihsw nhI hY[ auh D~ky nwl swQoN KohI iPrdy hn ieh g~l v~KrI hY[ vIro ihMdosqwnI hox qy mwx nW kro sgo pMjwbI hox qy kro[ hux PrWs qy bYljIAm ny dsqwr sjwaux qy pwbMdI lw idqI hY, hux mY auhnW vIrW nUM puCdw hW jo ieMfIAn hox qy bVw PKr krdy hn, kI quhwfI srkwr ijMnW dw qusI ictIAW p~gW bMn ky rIpblk fy qy JMfw lihrwauNdy ho, ny PrWs dI srkwr nUM swfIAW dsqwrW bwry koeI ijkr kIqw[ iblkul nhI kIqw qy qusI eyvyN hI JMfy cukI iPrdy ho[

swfy nwl ivqkry qW hr QW qy ho rhy hn, ikMny ku d~sIey, dsidAW dsidAW keI idn gujr jwx gy[ AsI qy ieMfIAn hox qy koeI PKr nhI krdy sgo Srm mihsUs krdy hW[ A~j jy swfw dyS huMdw qy PrWs vrigAW mulkW dI kI jurq sI swfI p~g vl dyKdy, ieh auho hI PrWsI hn jo mhWrwjw rxjIq isMG nwl h~Q imlw ky bhuq v~fw PKr mihsUs kirAw krdy sn, pr A~j auh swfI p~g qy pwbMdI lw rhy hn, ikauN? ikauNik swfw rwj nhI[ pMjwb iv~c AkwlIAW dw jW dsqwr sjwaux vwly kYptn sihb dw rwj koeI rwj nhI hY[ ieh qW iek pqMg hY ijs dI for sYNtr srkwr kol hY[ auh ijdr nUM iKcx gy kYptn swihb qy bwdl swihb kuqy vWgUM pUC hlwauNdy jwx gy[ so ieh rwj koeI rwj nhI hY[ rwj sI mhWrwjw rxjIq isMG dw, auh rwj sI Akwl qKq sihb dw, ijQy mhwrwjw nUM vI glqI dI sjw imldI sI[ A~j dy rwijAW ny qW SRI Akwl qKq swihb dI vI nhI mMnI[

ieMfIAn hox qy PKr krn vwilau hr pwsy gWDI dw hI bol bwlw hY, hr koeI gWDI nUM hI rwStr ipqw d~s irhw hY, pr kI gurU qyg bhwdr swihb dI kurbwnI nMU Bul gey ho[ kI iehnW lokW kolo kdI gurU swihb bwry suixAW hY, iehnW ny qW gurduAwrw sIs gMj sihb ie~ty p~Qr mwry hn qy mrvwey hn, qusI iPr vI ieMfIAn hox qy PKr kr rhy ho[ ijMnw ny ictIAW p~gW bMnIAW sn Bwv Awpxy Awp nUM kWgrsI hox dw dwAvw krdy sn nUM vI idlI dMigAW iv~c brwbr dI kut peI hY[ iksy ny ieh nhI dyiKAw ky ieh, kWgrsI hY jwx idau[ b~s mslw qy dsqwr vwly dw sI[ aus dyS iv~c vwrI vwrI swirAW nUM kut peI hY qy pvy gI[ Bwv kdI isKW nUM, kdI muslmwnW nUM qy kdI iesweIAW nUM[ pr myrw iKAwl hY ky auh ieMfIAn hox qy ieMnw PKr nhI krdy ijMnW iqrMgy dw swnUM buKwr hY[
glqIAW dI iKmW[
siqnwm isMG

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

31/01/04

HELLO ONE OF READER OF 5abi.COM,

CAN YOU SAY ONE THING WHO WERE THAT PEOPLE SOME ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR GOLDEN ATTACK , NOT ONLY INDIAN GOVT BUT WE SIKHS TOO, HOLY PLACE IS FOR WORKSHIP NOT FOR ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THOSE DAYS IN GOLDEN TEMPLE EVERY BODY KNOWS, GURU NANAK AND GURU GOBIND SINGH JI NEVER PREACHED THAT WE SIKHS SHALL KILL HINDUS , GURU TEG BAHUDUR GAVE HIS LIFE FOR ANOTHER RELIGION , BUT IN 1983 _1984 INSTEAD FOR PREACHING MESSAGE OF PIECE ORDERS WERE GIVEN FROM GOLDEN TEMPLE THAT IK SIKH NU 36 HINDU AAYODA HA, AND INSTEAD FOR LOVE THEIR WAS HATERACY SOME WERE COMING OUT IN THOSE DAYS FROM OUR HOLIEST PLACE SHRI HARMINDER SAHIB, SO WHO ARE THOSE ARE RESPONSI BLE FOR 84 ATTACK , MESSAGE OF HATERACY WAS NEVER PREACHED BY GURU NANAK DEV JI NOT EVEN BY GURU GOBIND SINGH JI, THERE IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEORY AND PRACTICE .

KARNI AND KATHNI CH FARAK HA, AND I DONT THINK SOME WHO CELEBRATE DIWALI RAKHRI DO SOME WRONG , THESE FESTIVALS NEVER GIVE MESSAGE OF HATERACY, AND 90%SIKH CELEBRATE RAKHRI AND THERE IS PROVERB IN PUNJABI DAL ROTI GHAR DI DIWALI AMBARSAR DI AND THAT IS CELEBRATED IN GOLDEN TEMPLE ACCORDING HISTORY OF OUR GURU AND 52HILLY KINGS SOME WERE RELEASED FROM GWALIOR FORT,WHEN 90% SIKHS BELIEVE IN RAKHRI SOME IS FESTIVAL OF SISTERAFFECTION TOWARDS BROTHER SO IT IS DIIFICULT IS SAY CAN WE SAY THAT PERSONS SIKHS WHO DONT BELIEVE IN LOVE AND THINK BHAN DI VEER PRATI SHARDA BAKWAS HA , JA PHIR O 90% SOME BELIEVE IN LOVE, SOME IS LESSON TAUGHT BY OUR GURUS.

IT IS PERSONALLY AND DEPENDS UPON OUR NATURE , ANY WAY I AND MANY OTHERS THINK THAT WE HAVE LOVE FOR INDIA AND FOR US IT IS MATTER OF PROUD,FOR THEM WHO THINKS THAT IT ASHAMED US SIKHS THEY ARE UP TO THEM.
SAT SRI AKAL
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLONMOGA NORWAY

cMdr SyKr, BwrqI EvrsIz sMsQw, lY~str

30/01/04

A~j 30 jnvrI nMU gWDI jI dy ShIdI idvs qy lY~str dy BwrqIAW vloN auhnW dIAW dyS syvwvW leI idlI SrDWjlIAW ByNt kIqIAW geIAW[ vwkeI gWDI jI Bwrq dw nwm dunIAW Br 'c rOSn kr gey hn jo ik rihMdI dunIAW q~k isqwry vWg cmkdw rhygw[ dunIAW dy mhwn Amn pujwrI roz roz pYdw nhIN huMdy .....

cMdr SyKr, BwrqI EvrsIz sMsQw, lY~str

inrml isMG DONsI

30/01/04

myry ic`qr myry Sbd

A``j iPr mW bolI pMjwbI dI g`l c`lI hY mYN bhuqw ku`J nhIN ilKwgw, pr SurU ies qrHW krdw hW

"mW bolI hI ie`k AijhI bolI hY ijhVI AwpxI mW kolo nhIN is`KI jWdI"

LyKkW jW bu``DImwnW ny ies mu`dy nUM hmySw auTwieAw hY ikaUik auhnW ies dI mh`qqw nUM vwicAw hY ie`k lyKk BwvyN ikMnW vI vDIAw lyKk ikauN nw hovy pr auh lokwN nUM bolI isKwauxo AsmrQ hY pr auh bolI nwl Kyfxw isKwaux iv`c mwihr hY

jyhVy lyKk Awpxy lokW iv`c bolI dI cytk lwaux leI ku`J kr skdy hn auh pMjwbI bolI iv`c n mwqr hI hn ie`Qy myrw Bwv b``icAW leI sihq ilKxw jW swihq dI rcnw krnI ies dy kI kwrx hn s`B lyKk ies aupr vwrqwlwp CyV skdy hn

s`B qoN ijAwdw Aqy bhuq Aihmq r`Kx vwlw ikrdwr ieh auhnw s`jxw dy h`Q hY jo pMjwbIAW ny Awpxy AwgU cux ky pMjwb rwj sBw leI Byjy hn iehnW AwgUAW ny hI Aqy isrP iehnW ny hI pMjwbI bolI dy leI ku``J krnw hY iPr iehnw ny hI pMjwbI bolI nUM skUl dw ivhVw idKwauxw hY ijQoN iPr ie`k AiDAwpk dw ikrdwr SurU huMdW hY ijsny bolI dw imAwrI nINh p`Qr r`Kxw huMdw hY

ies bolI pRqI AvyslI nIqI dy hI is`ty Ajoky pMjwbI Bugq rhy hn lok kdI vI Avysly nhIN huMdy auh auhI is`Kdy hn jo auhnw nUM Awpxy Awly duAwly qoN imldw hY

ijhVy b`cyy bwhrly dySw iv`c jMmdy/pldy hn jd ieh ie`Qy jMmy/ply b``cy ie`Qo dy lyKkw dIAW b``icAW dy leI ilKIAW ikqwbW nwl vwkPIAq pwaudy hn iPr AsI mwpy iehnw nUM pMjwbI iv`c b``icAW leI ilKIAW ikhVIAW ikqwbW idAwgy? aUuh ikqwbW isrP pMjwbI iv`c hI hoxIAW kwPI nhIN sgoN auhnW dw idlcsp/rOck hoxw vI aunW hI jrUrI hY

Awaux vwlI pnIrI leI soco AwpW qW d`b Gu`t ky lMGwA hI lYxI hY

inrml isMG DONsI

gurjIq isMG prUQI, knyfw

30/01/04

In reference to the letter of Surinderpal Virk from America, I agree with him one hundred percent. When and why did we (sikhs) start saying "Happy republic day". as what is happy about it.Even when we were slaves to the British, they had all the respect for Sikhs, their religion, their culture, their appearence, and it is a well known fact that any body in the army caught trimming the moustche or beared or caught smoking would be court marshalled. And now our own elected Govt. has no respect for sikhs or their religion. I have seen military personneles in their "PATKA" and not in the turbans.

What they (Hindu dominated Govt.) did to Golden Temple and to sikhs in 1984 is well known to every body all over the world. I do not know how a real sikh, reading Guru Granth Sahib, following the doctrines of sikhism can forgive and forget, when the Indian Govt. did not have the decency of saying a "sorry" for it.  How can we celebrate Republic Day and greet each other when thousands of young sikhs are still in the prisons without any absolute reason and they are deprived of all the amenities and comfort of their homes.

I think the people who call themselves the sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh and celebrate Diwali, Dussehra, Janam Ashtami, Independence day, Republic day etc. should be ashamed of themselves. The only happy day we should celebrate is the day Guru Nanak Dev ji was born and Guru Gobind Singh was born. And the only SAD DAY we should remember in the history of Punjab and sikh history is the day Golden Temple was attacked with cannons and tanks. A real sad day.........

People write wills for their children and my 'will' be to my children, never forget JUNE 4, 1984 and do your best to at least get the proper apology from the Govt. of India.
Gurjit Singh Proothee
Brampton, Canada

mnpRIq isMG mlySIAw

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- dlbIr isMG

30/01/04

Sat sri akal to all 5abi.com visitors.

i just read Dalbir singh`s article "waris shah na ...." really it is so true. once somebody gets these habits its very hard to stop but not impossible. Dalbir Singh ji, the two examples about American and bibi ji are wonderful. I really appreciate it. they cant make it stop. not only bibi ji, baba ji as well. I suggest all Punjabi fellows to make their own leader. I mean the person who is not involved in this "GAND". sorry I cant write in Punjabi because I don't have that software.

Dalbir Singh ji, you are doing extremely good job. keep it up so that we can have some knowledge about these buggers. I hate this government who makes Punjab and Punjabi people down in Indian society and in world
yours sincerely
Manpreet Singh "Malaysia"

pRIq ig`l

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- dlbIr isMG

30/01/04

hello dilbir singh ji

i was read ur pharagraph
i think ur right, koki asi pardesa vich rhande apni maa boli nu bulde jande hai. mai switzerland tu hai. manu khusi hoyi tuhada laikh parke sanu apni maa boli da satkar karna cahida hai. sanu punjabi bolde time sarem nahi karni jahidi nale un ta punjabi har ik than te han
mail vich galti nu maif karna
satsriakal
preet gill

hrdIp isMG

30/01/04

siq sRI Akwl
C`bI jnvrI dy chyiqAW nUM iek g`l Xwd r`KxI cwhIdI hY ik sMqwlI dI vMf qO bwAd Aqy hux q`k is`KW ny ies sMivDwn Eupr sweIn nhI kIqy !

Sikhs nevr approved this document since 1950. The reasons for not signiing are well knowon . This republic day is all political stunt. Mr. Virk is right because any consitution that treat its people as 2nd class citizens is not worth celebrating. This is not a Sikh Hindu issue. Why can't we (Sikhs) have those liberties that others have like , justice in the court for Sikh genocide of 1984-1993, our own marriage act (Anand marriage act was approved by British), removel of article 25, river water disribution according to riparian law.

Hardeep Singh

dwrw iSkwgo, AmrIkw

30/01/04

ijny vI myry vIrw ny Bwrq mUl dy hox qy mwx mihsUs krn dI g`l kIqI hY auh swry TIk hn, swnUM ikau nI mwx hoxw cwhIdw ipAwry Bwrq qy Kws krky is`Kw nUM auh ies krky cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swnUM g`lw ivc tweIr pw pw ky mwrn , cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swfy Dwrimk A`sQnw nUM tYkw qopw nwl qbwh krn, cwhy l~K Bwrq vwsI swfy vIrw nUM JUty puls mukwbly ivc mwrn cwhy l`K Bwrq vwsI swfIAw BYxw dI iejqw nwl Kyfx Pyr vI swnUM Bwrq vwsI hox qy jrUr mwx hoxw cwhIdw hY[

ikau vIro TIk ikhw nw mY?

mY smJdw hY Agr swnUM Bwrq vwsI hox qy mwx hoxw cwhIdw hY qw auhnW PojIAw vIrw dI bhwdrI krky jo Bwrq dIAW srhMdw dI rwKI krdy hn qy sIny qy golIAw Kwdy hn JUTY qy mwkwr lIfrW leI [ ijhVy vIr BYx 15 Agsq qy 26 jnvrI nUM h`Q ivc qrMgw lY ky AwpxI Bwrq nwl vPw jwhr krdy hn iek p`l leI socx ky Bwrq ny is`KW nwl kInI ko vPw kIqI hY?

dwrw iSkwgo

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

30/01/04

hello sat sri akal 2 all,
I would like to thanks jasbir brar and gurpreet gill germany for nice comments and same time i thanks JOGINDER SANGHRA CANADA KI AASI SIKHA NA INDIAN HI REHNA , THAT IS NICE and i think even we live in western world we must have respect for INDIA .
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON "MOGA"norway

hrjIq isMG hOlYf

30/01/04

dsqwr Aqy is`K

ipAwry Kwlsw jIau ,

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw,
vwihgurU jI kw Pqih [

A`j dunIAw dw koeI vI Aijhw is`K nhI hY ijsnMU ieh nw pqw hovy ky A`j dsw pwqSwhIAw vlo bKSI hoeI is`K kOm dI dsqwr PrWs dy nvy bxn jw rhy knMUn muqwbk Kqry iv`c hY[ Aqy pUrI dunIAw dw is`K ies leI icMqq hY[ hr ie`k is`K ijsnMU vI pqw l`gw cwhy auh jQybMdk rUp iv`c hovy cwhy auh ie`k is`K hox dy nwqy hovy ausny Awpxw pUrw Xogdwn pwaux dI koiSS kIqI hY[ PrWs dy is`KW ny qW muslmwn vIrW nwlo v`KrW 31 jnvrI 2004 nUM ros mwrc krn dw PyYNslw kIqw hY[ ijs iv`c Xorp dy dUsry dySw dy is`K vI v`fI igxqI iv`c Swml hox jW rhy hn[

is`K kOm dy bydwg AwgU ,SromxI AkwlI dl AimRMqsr dy pRDwn Aqy mYbr pwrlImYNt sR. ismrnjIq isMG jI mwn ies iv`c SpYSl Swml ho rhy hn[ ieh ie`k bhUq vDIAw PYNslw hY[keI vIr ho skdw hY ik ies PYNsly nwl nw vI sihmq hox[mY ie``Qy ieh d`sxw cwhuMdw hW ik eIsweI m`q qo bwAd pUrI dunIAw iv`c mulmwn Drm dIAw srkwrw hn[igxqI iv`c muslmwn dySw dI sMiKAw bhUq hY[pr auhnW dI vI pRvwh kIqy ibnw PrWs srkwr ies knMUn nMU pws krn bwry kh rhI hY[pr A`j hYrwnI aus vkq ho rhI hY jdo pUurw is`K jgq dsqwr ivroDI knNMUn leI ie`k mu`T ho ky lV irhw hY aus vkq pMjwb dw swbkw mu`K mMqrI Aqy aus dy chyqy cu`p krky qmwSw dyK rhy hn[ jdy sR bwdl iBRStwcwr dy kysw iv`c PisAw sI qW iehnW lokw ny pMQ Kqry iv`c hY dy nW hyTw igRPqwrIAw dyxIAw SurU kr id`qIAw sn[ hux iehnw kol dsqwr dI Kwqr morcw lwaux ijhy ibAwn vI nhI hn[ G`t kYptn srkwr vI nhI kr rhI [ kYptn srkwr ny vI koeI sMjIdgI dsqwr dy mwmly iv`c nhI idKweI[smw SRI Akwl qKq swihb dy jQydwr isMG swihb sR. juigMdr isMG kol vI nhI hY ik auh Awp Aw ky PrWs iv`cly is~KW dw hwl pu`Cy[Aqy srkwr nwl Awp g`l kry[

SromxI g.p. kmytI ny jrUr sMjIdgI idKweI hY[ vwjpweI srkwr ny vI koeI sMjIdgI nhI idKweI[ jdo koeI knMUn pws ho jWdw hY qW aus nMU qOVnw bhUq hI ijAwdw muSkl ho jWdw hY[Awpxy h`QI Awpxw kwrj Awp svwrIey vwlI g`l hY[Kwlsw Akwl purK kI Poj, Kwlsw pRmwqm kI moj [ies Kwlsy nMU Aqy Kwlsy dI dsqwr nMU dunIAw dI koeI vI qwkq Kqm nhI kr skdI[is`K kOm ny Awpxy h`kw leI lVdy hI rihxw hY Aqy Awpxy h`k lYxy hn[knMUn iv`c rih ky Awpxw jor lwauxw hY Aqy srkwrW nMU d`sxw hY ik AsI Amn psMd SihrI hW[ g`l ie`Qy hI nhI m`uk jWdI[ A`j jdo pUrI kOm idRVqW nwl dsqwr ivroDI knMUn dw ivroD kr rhI hY, aus vkq swfw dsqwr sjwaux vwilAw dw vI ku`J Prj bxdw hY ky AsI dsqwr nMU Srwb pI ky SVkw , p`bw iv`c nw rolIey[ swnMU ieh PYyslw krnw pvygw ik jy AsI gurU goibMd isMG jI mhWrwj vlo bKSI hoeI dsqwr sjwauxI hY qW AsI ies dI pUrI-2 sMBwl krIey[ ies dsqwr dI kImq Ajoky Xu`g iv`c koeI vI nhI qwr skdw[swfw dsqwr pRqI shI sMjIdgI BirAw iehI kdm hovygw ky AsI dsqwr dI Awp Awpxy Awp byAdbI nw krIey Aqy pwqSwh vlo bKSI AimRq dI dwq pRwpq krky sKqI nwl pihrw dyeIey[swnMU ieh pUrI qrW Aihsws hY ik swfy kol rwjsI qwkq dw hoxw vI bhUq jrUrI hY[ AMq iv`c ij`q Kwlsy dI –is`K kOm dI hovygI[

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw ,
vwihgurU jI kI Pqih[

sMpwdk jI Aws hY ky Awp jI Awpxy pypr iv`c shI jgHw dy ky myry ivcwrw nMU pRkwsq krn dI Kycl krogy[dws koeI ilKwrI nhI hY[Agr ku`J ilKidAw glq iliKAw igAw hovy qW sMgq bKSx jog hY[ Bu`lw cu`kw dI iKmw[

is`K kimauintI bYnyluks hrjIq isMG hOlYf

joigMdr sMGyVw knyfw

29/01/04

mYN ikAw jI swirAW nUM siq sRI Akwl !

myrI iek Arz hY myry vIrW nUM, jo iek dy dUjy lyK au`qy jW srlyK au`qy ikMqU-prMqU krdy hn auh shI hY ik Awpxy-Awpxy ivcwr zrUr d`sxy cwhIdy hn[ ijs qrW ivrk jI ny ikMqU-prMqU kIqw hY myry iKAwl nwl qW nhIN l`gdw ik ivrk jI Awpxy Awp nUM ieMfIAn khwauxw cwhuMdy hoxygy[ ieh qW EhI g`l ho geI l`gdI hY ( jy iek ipE dy cwr-pMj pu`qrW iv`coN iek pu`q ru`s ky jW iksy hor vzHw nwl Awpxw ipMf C`f ky Sihr cly jwvy, auQy jw ky Sihr dy ihswb ikqwb nwl rihx l`g pvy, jy aus dy bwkI BYx Brw Awpxy ipE dy jnm idn au`qy jW iksy hor idn au`qy ipE leI idloN kuJ cMgw jW Su`B kwmnwvW krn qy , Eho Sihr vwlw pu`q Awpxy BYx BrwvW nUM khy ik qusIN cMgw nhIN kIqw[ ieQy Swied ru`s ky igAw pu`q ieh Bu`l irhw hovygw ik auh Awp vI qW Esy ipE dw hI pu`q hY[

ivrk jI ipE ny ipE hI rihxw hY[ AwpW ieMfIAn hW, Aqy hr hwlq iv`c ieMfIAn hI rihxw hY, beI swnUM qW is`KW dy Gr jMm ky vI ieMfIAw qy hI mwx hY[ ieMfIAn hox qy mwx hY[ ikauN ky swfw pMjwb swfy ieMfIAw (v`fy Gr dw) hI iek kmrw hY[ ies kmry dI aunw icr hI hoNd hY ijMnw icr ieh aus Gr dw ih`sw hY, vrnw iek`ly kmry iv`c bwhrly pirMidAW dw v`wsw hox l`igAW dyr nhIN l`gdI[ bwkI qusIN qW ^ud kwPI pVHy-ilKy l`gdy ho[

jy,AY`s brwV jI, gurpRIq ig`l jI ruipMdr iF`loN jI qusIN ivrk vI jI nUM bhuq sohxw zvwb iliKAw hY, lyikn ieQy qusIN iqMno vIry vI iek glqI kr gey ho, jy ikqy eyhI zvwb pMjwbI iv`c ilKdy qW sony au`qy suhwgy vwlI g`l hoxI sI[ mYN ieQy knyfw iv`c vI bhuq swry Awpxy pMjwbI bjurgW nUM jwxdw hW jihVy isrP pMjwbI hI pVH skdy hn, jW ieJ kih lE ik auh AwpxI BwSw nwl ipAwr krdy hn ies krky pMjwbI iv`c hI pVHnw psMd krdy hn[ kI AsIN b`cy auhnw bjurgW nUM Awpxy iKAwl pVHn leI nhIN dy skdy? kI swnUM cMgw lgUgw jy swfy bjurg ieMgilS pVHy muMifAW dy qrly krn AMgryzI qoN pMjwbI iv`c qrzmy leI? myry vIrno AsIN bhuq l`kI hW ik 5AwbI fwt kwm ny swnUM dysW-pRdysW iv`c bYiTAW leI mu&q Aqy isr& mu&q AwpxI mW bo`lI iv`c pVHn leI ilKx leI Axmu`lw qohPw id`qw hY[ kI swfw &rz nhIN bxdw ik AsIN 5AwbI fwt kwm ƒ pMjwbI rihx dyeIey? jy koeI bMdw pYrW iv`c kwE boey SU pw ky qyVH qMbw lw lvy au`qy kmIz pw ky tweI lw lvy qW auh iks qrW dw lgygw? ( sO &IsdI jokr ) ies krky myrI Arz hY auhnw ƒ jo Awpxy Awp ƒ pMjwbI khwauNdy hn[ ikrpw swfI mW bo`lI dy rKvwly 5AwbI fwt kwm ƒ jokr nw bxwE[ Awpxw jlUs nw k`Fo[ iek vwr iPr, myry bjurgo Aqy vIirE myrI JolHI ^Yr pw dE, pMjwbI isrP pMjwbI Awpxy 5AwbI fwt kwm leI[

mYN Awp sB dw qih idloN DnvwdI hovWgw
iKmw dw zwck hW
joigMdr sMGyVw knyfw

ruipMdrpwl isMG iF`loN

29/01/04

pRnwm,

mYnMU mw& krnw, mYN self taught hW grumuKI 'c  kyvl swl hoeyAw, i&r myrI il`KI pMjwbI kmzor hY[ pr mYN vlYq 'c j`imAw iqAwr hW, bolI il`Kn leI[ I am ashmed of Punjabi's who I saw at University speaking in English Amonsgt themselves, so I believe this is needed. English was a junglee Language, the sophisticated spoke Latin and French. Now English speakers are laughing. Thus I would ignore commemts about Punbjabi being village language.

iemiqhwn borf v`l myrw qw pUrw sport hYN

ruipMdrpwl isMG iF`loN, vlYqI pMjwbI nwvilst

iek svwl: kI iksy ny A`j qk pMjwbI 'c swAYNi&kSn (Science Fiction, ivigAwnk glp)) dIAW khwxIAW il`KIAW hn?

jsbIr ig`l, jrmnI

29/01/04

HELLO,
I THINK SURINDER VIRK JI HAVE GOT RIGHT ANSWER, BALLE BAI DHILLON NORWAY MOGA WALLAYA, ANY WAY I AM FROM AJITWAL NEAR MOGA ,HERE IN GERMAN , PLS GIVE ME UR PHONE NO.
VIRK JI DONT FEEL SHAME TO BE INDIAN,
FROM
JASBIR GILL, GERMAN

ruipMdr iF`loN 'mogw' nwrvy

29/01/04

HELLO DARA CHICHAGO JI,

I AGREED WITH YOUR YESTERDAYS COMMENTS THAT WE MUST SHOW INTERESTED FOR PUNJABI BOLLI, AND U R RIGHT THAT OUR SIKHS BROTHERS HESITATE TO WISH OTHER SIKH, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS HERE IN NORWAY AND IN MANY PARTS OF EUROPE , NOT ONLY MEXICIANS BUT ALSO MUSLIMS SHOW ATTITITUDE OF RESPECT AND WISH OTHER IF THEY SEEMS THAT HE IS MUSLIM , BUT NOT OUR SIKHS , REGARDING THIS I HAVE WROTE IN READERS LETTERS 2_3 DAYS BACK,
ANY WAY IT IS VERY NICE TO READ YOUR COMMENTS ON 5ABI.COM

prmjIq isMG, svIfn

29/01/04

Dear Sir,
Being a sikh i feel concerned about a PC game named Hitman 2.by EIDOS. PARTS NAMELY TERMINAL HOSPITALITY AND DEATH OF HANNELORE DISPLAY SIKHS AS BODY GAURDS OF A PANDIT TERRORIST WITH RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS AND THE GAME PLAYER SHOOTS THEM. I THINK U AS A NEWSPAPER SHOULD TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

REGARDS
PARAMJIT SINGH
SWEDEN

fw. krnYl isMG cyArmYn, pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU.ky.)

28/01/04

pMjwbI fOt kOm ( 5abi.com) dI smucI imhnqI qy isrVI stwP Aqy fw. bldyv kMdolw swhb nUM auhnW dIAW pMjwbI bolI pRqI vPwdwr syvw Aqy ies v~fI pRwpqI leI pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU U.ky) dy smUh borf Aqy syvwdwrW vloNH Fyr swrIAW idlI mubwrkW [

nwl hI AMimRqw pRIqm jI nUM SRI pdm BUSn snmwn imlx leI pMjwbI bolI nUM ipAwr krn vwly swry pMjwbIAW nUM vDweI [ AMimRqw jI dI ishq TIk nhIN auh kwPI smyN qoN mMjy qy hn [ Aqy AsIN auhnW dI cMgI ishq leI vI kwmnw krdy hW [

fw. krnYl isMG cyArmYn
pMjwbI AkY~fmI lY~str (XU.ky.)


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