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quhwfy ivcwrW dw suAwgq hY... swnUM ilKo

pwTkW dy ivcwrW nwl 5abi.com Adwry dw
sihmq hoxw koeI zrUrI nhI[

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pRIqm isMG gryvwl, knyfw

sOKw nhIN moh qy mwieAw iqAwgxw
- dlbIr isMG

28/02/04

s.dlbIr isMG jI dw lyK 'sOKw nhIN moh qy mwieAw iqAwgxw' idlcsp l`igAw[ ieh ienswnI iPqrq auqy jwxkwrI BrpUr Jwq pwauNdw hY[

^ws kr ky iesdy A^Irly ieh l&z, myry i^Awl muqwibk, ies ilKq dw incoV hn: 'gRihsQ qoN aucw koeI AwSrm nhIN[ gRihsQIAW qoN mMg ky Kwx vwly nwloN mwVw Aqy pwKMfI koeI sMinAwsI nhIN'[

iehnW sqrW nUM pVHn smy ByKI, pwKMfI, swDW, mwieAw dy AKOqI iqAwgI sMinAwsI, bwibAW Awid bwry gurmq dI kImqI isiKAw dIAW hyTlIAW qukW Xwd AwauNdIAW hn:

"iesu ByKY Qwvhu igrho Blw ijQhu ko vrswie] (gurU Amrdws jI)

Bwv, ies ByKI jIvn nwloN gRihsQ cMgw hY ijQoN mnuKI loVW dI pUrqI huMdI hY[

"gRih qij bn KMf jweIAY cuin KweIAY kMdw]
Ajhu ibkwr n CofeI pwpI mnu mMdw]
(Bgq kbIr jI)

Bwv, Gr bwr C`f ky jMgl byilAW ivc cly jwx qy jVHW Awid Kwx dy iqAgI jIvn jIx nwl vI pwpI, BYVw mn burweI nhIN C`fdw[

"gur pIru sdwey mMgx jwie] qw kY mUil n lgIAY pwie] (gurU nwnk swihb)

Bwv, Awpxy Awp nUM gurU, pIr Awid khwauNdw hY pr (ikrq kIqy ibnW) horW qoN mMg mMg ky loVW pUrIAW krdw hY[ AYsy bMdy dy pYrIN jW ip`Cy aukw hI nw l`go[

"Gwil Kwie ikCu hQhu dyie]nwnk rwhu pCwxih syie] (gurUu nwnk swihb)

Bwv, ikrq kmweI kr ky Aqy aus ivcoN loVvMdW nwl vMf ky Ckx vwly hI izMdgI dw shI rwh pCwxdy hn[

Aijhy isAwxp Bry Awqimk qy smwijk igAwn dy huMidAW suMidAW vI AsIN ByKIAW, ivhlVW, AKOqI iqAwgIAW Awid pwKMfIAW dy iSkwr hoeI jWdy hW[ kI ieh ivigAwnk q`Q nhIN ik ienswn dIAW SRIrk qy mwnisk zrUrqW Aqy izMmydwrIAW dI pUrqI leI gRihsQI jIvn hI isrmOr hY?

moh mwieAw dw pUrn iqAwg AOKw hI nhIN blik AsMBv hY[ iesy leI gurmq dw aupdyS sMswrk jIvn ijauNidAW jW mwieAw ivc ivcridAW hI jl AMdr kMvl vWg inrlyp rihx dw hY[ 'AMjn mwih inrMjin rhIAY' Bwv, moh mwieAw dI kwlK ivc bydwZ rihxw, nw ik eyhnW qoN B`j jwxw[

pRIqm isMG gryvwl

iekbfl rfmUvflIaf (trFto, kYnzf)

240204_sanskar1_100.jpg (5805 bytes)ikvyN dyeIey cMgy sMskwr Apxy b`icAW nUM
- hrbIr isMG BMvr  

28/02/04

ipafry vIr jI:
muafPL krnf ik afpxy skUlI kMm ivwc aqy hor sfihiqk srgrmIaF ivwc glL qIk KuwiBaf hox kfrn bIqy cfr pMj hPLqy mYN 5afbI nUM bfkfiedgI nfl ivijLt nhIN kr sikaf. pr awj hI hrbIr isMG BMvr df, bwicaF nUM cMgy sMskfr dyx sbMDI lyK bhuq kImqI iliKaf pVHn nUM imilaf. BMvr sfuhb dy nukqy Bfrq hI nhIN sgoN dunIaF Br dy bwicaF leI lfhyvMd sfbq ho skdy hn. N

ipCly aTfrF sfl kYnzf ivwc ikwqy vjoN skUl isstm nfl lgfqfr juVy hox kr ky, mY anykF hI cMgy Bly bwicaF nUM ivgVdy aqy ivgiVaF nUM shI lIh 'qy afAuNdy qwikaf hY. bwicaF dy ivkfs nUM eynf lMmF smF dyKx-prKx qoN bfad mYN ies iswty 'qy awpiVaf hF ik kuJ bwcy qF kudrq vwloN hI afpxy suBfa ivwc eIrKf, grmI, sVyvF aqy KrUdpuxf lY ky afAuNdy hn, qy bfkI dy bwcy kudrqI qOr 'qy hI sfAU, sMjmI, suGV, aqy sfPL suQry huMdy hn. skUl dy pihly do iqMn sfl bwicaF dI buinafd dy sfl huMdy ny. ijhVIaF cMgIaF jF mMdIaF afdqF bwicaF ny ienHF 'buinafdI' (ivkfsI) sflF ivwc gRihx kr leIaF jF mfipaF aqy mhOl ny krf idwqIaF, AunF afdqF nUM bwcy nfloN Aus dI bfad dI Aumr ivwc inKyVnf sOKf nhIN huMdf. axcfihaf suBfa kudrq vwloN hI lY ky jnmy bwcy vI, agr cMgy mhOl ivwc pfly jfx, qF Auh cMgIaF afdqF vwl qur skdy hn.

pRMqU bdysLF ivwc vsdy pMjfbIaF dI musLikl ieh hY ik Auh bwicaF vwl iDafn dyx nfloN pYsf kmfAux nUM jfxy-axjfxy ijLafdf qrjIh dyNdy hn. ieh gwl AunHF dI pkV ivwc nhIN afAuNdI ik agr bwcy hI iksy kMm dy nf rhy qF vwzy Gr aqy bYNkF 'c Aubfly mfrdy zflr iks kMm? mfipaF aqy mfhOl dI byruKI kfrn ivgVy pMjfbI bwcy iks pfsy vwl nUM vD rhy hn ies df aMdfjLf ies hkIkq qoN lgf skdy hF ik kYnzf ivwc pMjfbIaF dI sMGxI vsoN vfly bI sI sUby ivwc pMjfbI gwwBrUaF dI gYNg-vfr 'c ipCly iewk dhfky dOrfn pMj drjx qoN vwD kql ho cuwky hn. lok, smglr, zrg-zIlr jF BfVy dy kfql ikDry acfnk hI nhIN bx jFdy. bcpn ivwc cMgIaF kdrF kImqF dI iswiKaf nf imlx kfrn hI bwcy Btk ky mMdIaF srgrmIaF ivwc Kicq huMdy hn.

BMvr sfihb nUM myry vwloN ajyhf vDIaf lyK ilKx leI mubfrkbfd.
iekbfl rfmUvflIaf (trFto, kYnzf)

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

240204_sanskar1_100.jpg (5805 bytes)ikvyN dyeIey cMgy sMskwr Apxy b`icAW nUM
- hrbIr isMG BMvr  

28/02/04

ikvyN dyeIey cMgy sMskwr Apxy b`icAW nUM
- hrbIr isMG BMvr

s. hrbIr isMG ie`k sulJy hoey lyKk hn [ auh hr gl bhuq Asrdwr FMg nwl kih jWdy hn [ ies lyK ivc b`icAW dI mwniskqw dI crcw kIqI geI hY [ b`icAW nUM hr vyly Gr ivc r`Kx nwloN bwhr Gumw ky aunW dw mnorMjn krnw , auhnW dI sKSIAq inKwrn ivc shweI huMdw hY [ b`icAW nUM GrylU mwhOl ivc vI cMgy sMskwr dyxy cwhIdy hn [ Aj kl dI qyj qrwr ijMdgI ivc shI mwrg drSn hI b`cy dI cMgI prvirS kr skdw hY [

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq [

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

260204_loktantar1_100.jpg (4606 bytes)lok, lokqMqr qoN ikhVw 'vVyvW' cwhuMdy hn?
- srvmIq isMG 

27/02/04

'vVyNvy' dI AwV ivc lyKk dw ieh ivAMg mOjUdw iGnOxI rwjnIqI dw prdw PwS ivc kwmXwb irhw hY [ kwS hr votr nyqwvW dIAW lUMbV cwlW nUM smJ ik shI aumIdvwr nUM vot pwvy , nW ik v`fIAW pwrtIAW dw bYnr dyK ky [

hr pwrtI kih rhI ik auh hI dyS nUM mOjUdw sMkt ivcoN k`F skdI hY jd ik AslIAq ieh hY ik ieh swrIAW pwrtIAW hI dyS nUM mOjUdw skMt ivc pwaux leI ijMmyvwr hn [ bjwr ivc hr dukwndwr ieh kihMdw hY ik aus dI dukwn dw mwl swry bjwr nwloN ssqw qy vDIAw hY , iblkul iesy qrW hr pwrtI AwpxI qUqI vjw rhI hY [ m`CI bjwr ligAw hoieAw hY, jo v`D qoN v`D qy vDIAw qoN vDIAw JUT bol ky lokW nUM Brmw lvygw , ausy dw hI mwl ijAwdw ivkygw , Bwv auh hI v`D votW lY ky dyS dI 'vwgfor' hor pMj swlW leI sMBwlygw Aqy dyS qy lokW dI lu`t krn dw kwrj sPlqw pUrvk isry cVwvygw [

auh idn kdoN Awvygw jdoN Bwrq, ies ckrivaU ivc inkl ky qr`kI vl kdm putygw [ kI bwhrly dySW ivc vI ies qrW dI rwjnIqI KyfI jWdI hY jW lok BlweI v`l vI iDAwn idqw jWdw hY ?

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq [

hrdIp isMG mwn, AwstrIAw

240204_sanskar1_100.jpg (5805 bytes)ikvyN dyeIey cMgy sMskwr Apxy b`icAW nUM
- hrbIr isMG BMvr  

25/2/04

ikvyN dyeIey cMgy sMskwr Awpxy b`icAW ƒ (hrbIr isMG BMvr)

DMnvwd [ lyK bhuq hI jwxkwrI BrpUr, sWBxXog, Awp pVHn Aqy horW ƒ pVHwaux dy Xog hY [

aumId hY ik B`ivK ivc vI Awm jIvn sMbDI iesy qrHW dy lyK 5AwbI.kOm qy lgdy rihxgy [

hor vI cMgw hovygw jykr pwTk ies swJyN ivSy ƒ A`gy qorn [

DMnvwd

hrdIp isMG mwn, AwstrIAw

hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

23/02/04

5abi
Dear Amarinder Singh Ji,
I am forwarding your letter to Dr Sangat Singh. Your views on Langer are correct.In Punjabi version of his book,Dr Sangat Singh has stated that Guru Tegh Bahadur allowed Kashmiri Brahmins to cook their food. I am also not convinced that Nehru family has any lineage with Gangu Brahmin. For the kind information of distinguished readers of 5abi.com.,I am reproducing my article on this subject.
Regards,
H.S.Bhanwer

kI nihrU pirvwr dw gMgU bRwhmx nwl koeI sbMD hY?

ies vrHy gurU ieiqhws nwl sbMDq iqMn SqwbdIAW Aw rhIAW hn[ dUsry pwqSwh sRI gurU AMgd dyv jI dw 500-swlw pRkwS auqsv (18 AprYl), dsW pwqSwhIAW dI joq sRI gurU gRMQ swihb jI dw 400-swlw pihlw pRkwS (pihlI sqMbr) Aqy srbMsdwnI sRI gurU goibMd isMG jI dy cwry swihbzwidAW Aqy mwqw gujrI jI dw 300-swlw ShIdI idvs (21 qoN 26 dsMbr) mnwey jwxy hn[ ieh iek ieiqhwisk s`cweI hY ik mwqw gujrI jI Aqy dono Coty swihbzwidAW nUM gurU jI dy rsoeIey qy moirMfw ielwky dy ipMf shyVI dy gMgU bRwhmx, ny igPqwr krvwieAw sI Aqy iPr srihMd dy sUbydwr vzIr Kwn ny aunHW nUM ShId kr idqw sI[ ies kwrn Awm is~K gMgU bwhmx nUM bhuq hI n&rq krdy hn[ ies dy ault nvwb mwlyrkotlw, ijnHW ny sUbw srihMd nUM slwh idqI ik mwsUm b`icAW nUM C`f idqw jwey, koeI bdlw lYxw hY qW ienHW dy ipqw qoN ilAw jwey, nUM is`K bhuq hI siqkwrdy hn[ 1947 dy &swdW vyly vI iksy ny mwlyrkotlw dy muslmwnW vl A~K cuk ky vI nhIN dyiKAw, qy aunHW nUM q`qI hvw vI nhI lgx idqI[

ieh gMgU bRwhmx kOx sI? auh gurU swihb dw rsoeIAw kdoN bixAw? ies bwry hux qk ieho ikhw jWdw hY ik ieh KyVI dw rihx vwlw sI, gurU swihb pws kdoN igAw, ies bwry bhuqI jwxkwrI nhIN imldI[
pRis`D is`K ivdvwn qy ieiqhwskwr fw. sMgq isMG ny ApxI pusqk "ieiqhws 'c is`K" ivc nihrU pirvwr nUM gMgU bRwhmx dy vMS nwl joiVAw hY[ AorMgzyb dy zulm qS`dd qoN pRySwn ho ky jd kSmIrI pMfq gurU qyZ bhwdr jI pws AwnMdpur swihb Awey sn, ijnHW dI AgvweI AnMqnwg ielwky coN m`tn qoN pMfq ikrpw rwm kr rhy sn[ ies bwry vI iksy nUM SMkw nhIN hY[ fw.sMgq isMG ilKdy hn, "ies mMfl ivc do qrHW dy lok sn[ v&d dw muKI pMfq Aqy kuJ hor is`K lihr v`l JukwA r`Kdy sn, bwkI swry vrx AwSrm Drm Aqy ies ivclIAW au`cIAW nIvIAW jwqW dy p`ky AnuXweI sn[ so pihlw svwl ieh auiTAw ik kI pRqIin`D gurU ky lMgr ivc pRSwid Ck ky Awpxy Drm nUM iBRSt krn lYx? gurU qyZ bhwdr jI ny ienHW dI duib`Dw dUr krn leI v`fw jIA kr ky bRwhmxW dy syvk, gMgw rwm kOl aur& gMgU bRwhmx nUM Awpxy gRih ivKy rsoeIAw r`K ilAw qW jo ienHW leI Bojn Aqy hor loVW dw pRbMD kr dyvy"(pMnw-65).

iesy pMny qy hyTW Put-not ivc auh dsdy hn, "kSmIrI ieiqhwskwr pI.AYn.ky. bwmjeI, ny AprYl 1995 ivc lyKk nwl glbwq kridAW ikhw ik kSmIrI bRwhmx AYny k`tV sn, (Aj kl qoN QoVw smW pihlW qk vI) ik auhnW nwl sdw kSmIrI bRwhmx rsoeIAw huMdw sI Aqy iksy hor nUM, BwvyN pMjwbI bRwhmx nUM, auh Awpxy Gr inXukq nhIN krdy sn["

ihMdusqwn dI AwzwdI dI lVweI ivc is`Kw dy rol Aqy gurduAwrw suDwr lihr vwly AiDAwey ivc jYqo dy morcy ivc nihrU dI igr&qwrI qy jylH coN irhweI hox dw izkr krdy hoey auh ilKdy hn, "aus smyN jvwhr lwl Awpxy ipqw dy vqIry qoN kw&I prySwn sI Aqy moqI lwl vI pu`qr dy Epry vqIry qoN G`t inrwS nhIN sI ikauNik ieh pirvwr dIAW rvwieqW dy ault sI[ moqI lwl ny Awpxy pu`qr nUM iek g`l 'qy gOr krn leI ikhw ik jd gWDI, mwlvIAw, AYNfiraUz Aqy dUsry AwgU is`K lihr dI ihmwieq krn ivc. auh Awp (moqI lwl) Blw ikauN ies mwmly 'qy cu`p hY[ aus ny qd jvwhr lwl nUM swrI khwxI dsI ik ikvyN 'kOl ' nwm 'nihrU' nwm ivc qbdIl hoieAw sI[ aus ny AwpxI gl ieQoN AwrMB kIqI ik bwdSwh &ruKsIAr ny gMgw rwm kOl aur& gMgU bRwhmx dIAw muZl slqnq pRqI syvwvW nUM icr ipCoN pCwxidAW sn 1716 ivc aus dy pu`qr rwj kOl nUM jwgIr idqI sI[ moqI lwl ny gMgw rwm kOl dI kwrvweI nUM jwiez TihrwieAw ikauNik aus dy ivcwr Anuswr gurU goibMd isMG jI vloN Kwlsy dw inrmwx krnw bRwihmxI m`q leI is`Dw Kqrw bx igAw sI[ jvwhr lwl iek AwigAwkwr p`uqr Aqy eImwndwr bRwhmx hox kr ky ayusy rwh 'qy Aw igAw[ ies ipCoN aus dy AkwlIAW pRqI dv`eIey ivc pRq`K qbdIlI Aw geI[ qd qoN nihrU pirvwr dw is`KW pRqI rv`eIAw pirvwirk rvwieqW Anuswr hI irhw[" (pMnw-188)

jwgIr imlx bwry fw.sMgq isMG ny pihlW iek AiDAwey ivc disAw hY ik PrvrI 1712 ivc bwdSwh bhwdr Swh dI mOq ho geI[ Agly swl &ruKsIAr nvyN bwdSwh bxy[ auh ilKdy hn, "bwdSwh &ruKsIAr ny 1716 ivc ieh mMn ilAw ik srihMd dy sUbydwr vzIr Kwn ny iek dhwkw pihlW gMgU bRwhmx nwl aus smyN vDIkI kIqI sI jdoN aus koloN sonw, gihxy Aqy nkdI lY ky zbq kr ley sn jo gMgU ny gurU goibMd isMG jI dy mwqw jI qy do Coty swihzwidAW nUM DoKw dy ky moirMfw dy Kwn dy hvwly kridAW hiQAw ley sn[ aus ny gMgU dy pu`qr rwj kl nUM bdly ivc id`lI dy iek aupngr, AMDw muZl ivKy nihr dy kMFy siQq jwgIr dy id`qI[ ies 'qy prdw pwaux vwsqy, ieh jwgIr nihr kMFy hox kr ky Awpxy nW nwloN kOl htw ky ies dI QW nihrU aupnwm qurMq lgw idqw[" (pMnw-100)

iesy pMny 'qy hyTW Put-not 'qy ilKdy hn, "pirvwr dy ieiqhws bwry not, bMsI Dr nihrU (1848-1913), jo auqr prdyS ivc iek vwr pRQm gryf dw sb-j`j irhw sI, ny ApxI mOq qoN kuJ smW pihlW iliKAw sI["

"jvwhr lwl nihrU ny ipCoN ies ivc soD kIqI, jd aus ny iliKAw ik kOl-nihrU nwm nwl jwxy jWdy rihx ipCoN pirvwr nUM hOlI hOlI aupnwm nihrU imilAw, pr ieh g`l s`c nhIN hY[ bMsI Dr nihrU dy not dy bwvjUd jvwhr lwl nihrU AwpxI svY-jIvnI (1936) dw AwrMB ies JUT nwl krdw hY ik &ruKsIAr 1716 ivc rwj kOl (AKOqI qOr 'qy sMsikRq Aqy PwrsI dy mhwn ivdvwn) nUM kSmIr qoN ilAwieAw Aqy aus nUM AMDw muZl ivc jwgIr idqI[ swry ieiqhwskwr sihmq hn ik &ruKsIAr kdy vI kSmIr nhIN igAw sI[" ies dI puStI leI auh nwmvr p`qrkwr AYm.jy.Akbr dI psuqk 'Jawaharlal Nehru.A biogrphy'(1989) Aqy bI.ky. nihrU dI pusqk 'Nice Guys Finish Second' (1997) dw hvwlw idMdy hn[ aunHW Anuswr gMgU bRwhmx dI vMS coN hox kr ky hI ieMdrw gWDI ny 1984 ivc sRI drbwr swihb 'qy PojI hmlw kIqw sI[ jykr nihrU pirvwr bwry fw. sMgq isMG vloN ilKy ieh q`Q shI hn, qW iesy kwrn rwjIv gWDI ny ivauNqb`D FMg nwl is`KW dw kqlyAwm kvwieAw[ sonIAw gWDI qy rwhul-ipRXMkw BYx-Brw nUM vI AwpxI ieh KwndwnI irvwieq jwrI rKxI pey gI[

pRis`D pMQk ivdvwn BweI kwhn isMG nwBw ny Apxy "mhwn koS" ivc gMgU bRwhmx bwry ies qrHW iliKAw hY, "KyVI ipMf dw vsnIk iek bRwhmx gurU goibMd isMG jI dw k`ptI nOkr sI, sMmq 1761 ivc jd gurU swihb ny AwnMdpur swihb iqAwigAw.aus vyly ieh mwqw gujrI jI Ar Coty swihbzwidAw nUM lY ky Awpxy ipMf phuMicAw, mwqw jI dw swrw Dn rwq nUM curw ky svyry Qwxydwr nUM Awpxy ipRqpwlkW nUM PVwaux leI cVHw lY AwieAw, Aqy qyhW nUM kYd krvwky srihMd iBjvwieAw, ij`Qy aunHW ny ShIdI pweI[ bMdw bhwdr ny sMmq 1767 ivc gMgU nUM pirvwr smyq kql kr ky KyVI dw Qyh kIqw, hux nvIN bsqI dw nwauN shyVI hY[(pMnw-433)

ieh lyKk/p`qrkwr ieiqhwskwr qW nhIN pr is`K ieiqhws dw kwPI AiDAYn bhuq kIqw hY[ pRis`D ic`qrkwr s.soBw isMG dy nyVy 25-26 swl rihx dw suBwg pRwpq hoieAw ijnHW ny is`K ieiqhws bwry bhuq hI fUMGw AiDAYn kIqw sI qy AwpxI glbwq dOrwn Aksr ieiqhwisk q`QW dw hvwlw idAw krdyy sn[ aunHW kdI Ajyhw izkr nhIN kIqw[ lyKk pRis`D is`K ivdvwn ipRMsIpl siqbIr isMG dy vI nyVy irhw hY Aqy aunHW vloN ilKIAW gurU swihbwn dIAW jIvnIAW pVHIAW hn, pr nihrU pirvwr dw ipCokV gMgU bRwhmx nwl hox bwry ikqy nhIN piVHAw[

SRI drbwr swihb auqy kIqy vihSIAwxw PojI hmly kwrn ivSv Br dy is`K ieNMdrw gWDI nUM bhuq hI n&rq krn lgy hn[ ho skdw hY ik fw.sMgq isMG ny ies n&rq qy gu`sy kwrn hI nihrU-gWDI pirvwr nUM gMgU bRwhmx vMS nwl joV idqw hoey[ Aws hY ik swihbzwidAW qy mwqw gujrI jI dy ies 300-swlw ShIdI prb dy vrHy dOrwn is`K ieiqhwskwr Aqy ivdvwn ies bwry hor Koj krn gy[
------------ hrbIr isMG BMvr,luiDAwxw

sMqoK isMG,AwstRylIAw

mwstr Aqy murgw
- jsdyv isµG DwlIvwl

22/02/04

sMpwdk jI

s. jsdyv isMG DwlIvwl horW ny ‘mwstr Aqy murgw’ nwmI ivAMgAwmk lyK ivc sohxI XQwrQk qsvIr iK`cI hY[

ijQoN q`k myrI XwddwSq dw sbMD hY auh ieh hY ik 9 mwrc 1967 vwLy idn, AkwlI dl dI AgvweI ivc, sWJy morcy dI srkwr bxI sI ijsdy muK mMqrI jsits gurnwm isMG Aqy ividAw mMqrI S. lCmx isMG ig`l sn[ ies srkwr ny hI, myrI Xwd SkqI Anuswr, dyS Br ivc sB qoN pihlW kuTwrI kimSn lwgU kIqw sI ijs nwL AiDAwpkW dIAW qnKwhW ivc rwqo-rwq do-iqMn guxW vwDw ho igAw sI; jy myrI Xwd drusq hY qW!

jsdyv isMG jI ny g`l 1965-66 dI kIqI hY[ iek nvMbr 1966 nUM nvy bxy pMjwb dy muK mMqrI, igAwnI gurmuK isMG musw&r bxy sn[ aus qoN pihlW Cy mhIny sRI Drm vIr dw gvrnrI rwj irhw sI qy aus qoN pihlW kwmryf rwm ikSn muK mMqrI sn jo ik s. prqwp isMG kYroN dy lwhy jwx mgroN bxy sn[

jykr tIcrW dIAw qnKwhW bwry kuTwrI kimSn 65-66 ivc lwgU hoieAw hovy qW ieh Pyr gvrnrI rwj smy jW musw&r jI dy rwj smy hoieAw hoxw cwhIdw hY jW Pyr kwmryf jI dy smy[ pr AkwlI Pyr ikauN iesdw krYift lYNdy hn ik AsIN kuTwrI simSn lwgU kIqw, AsIN dMpqI nUM ieko skUL ivc inXukq krn dI nIqI bxweI, AsIN Gr dy sB qoN nyVy dy skUl ivc mwstrW dI nOkrI krn dy AiDkwr dw PYslw kIqw!

DMnvwd sihq,

sMqoK isMG,AwstRylIAw

AmirMdr isMG

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22/02/04

Harbir Singh Bhamer ji,

I read your book review and an article on Sanjh Savera about “ieiqhfs `c iswK” by Dr. Sangat Singh.

There is one contradiction in the book. On page 62 of the english version, Sangat Singh wrote that Guru Teg Bahudar hired Gangu to cook for the Kashmiri Brahimins. This is not Gurmat.

But on page 27 of the english version, Sangat Singh wrote the following:

“He [Guru Amar Das] also made partaking of food in Guru Ka Langar compulsory for anyone wishing to see him. This applied even to emperor Akbar and upper caste Rajput Raja of Haripur during their visit. The food was prepared by people of all castes; that was to weld his followers in one human family.”

According to the above Guru Amar Das made everyone eat Guru Ka Langar that was cooked by sangat. This is Gurmat. Both statements can not be true because Guru Teg Bahudar taught the same principles Guru Amar Das did.

If you have Sangat Singh’s contact, please forward this letter to him so we can clarify this point.

Please send your opinion on this matter.

Thank You
Amrinder Singh

inrml isMG DOsIN

21/02/04

"mYN sMswr vwsI hW pMjwb vwsI nhIN pr mYN ieh kdI nhIN Bu``ldw ik myrIAW nIhW dI cxweI 'c ie`t pMjwbI hI l`gI hoeI hY"

inrml isMG DOsIN

ruipMdr iF`loN "mogw", nwrvy

21/02/04

Hello Veer Raja Dhudike,

In response to your letter i would like to say that some of my friends write their city or country name as usual as u wrote RAJA DHUDIKE and i dont think that there is some wrong to present like this, please my brother dont make it big issue.
sat sri akal.
from
rupinder dhillon"MOGA"norway

suirMdr mwhl, lY~str

20/02/04

ipAwry sMpwdk jI !
lY~str 20 jnvrI 2004

soicAw sI ik mYN hux koeI p~qr nhIN ilKWgw pr rih nIN hoieAw[ DONsI jI ny ie~k bhuq hI Gu~tvyN jhy i^AwlW vwlw ^q ilK ky Awpxy Awp nUM klw dw bhuq v~fw pwrKU hox dw dwAvw kIqw hY[ vDIAw g~l hovygI ik auh SbdW dI dunIAW 'coN bwhr ky pwTkW nUM kuC idKw skx qW swry pwTk/drSk DMnvwdI hoxgy[ DONsI swhb ilKdy hn "ies qrHW ilKxw pVHn vwly dy mn 'c ie`k glq qsvIr pYdw krdw hY ies dy is`ty Gwqk inklxgy Aqy pMjwbI ic`qrklw sMkIrx hovygI" jW iPr …"sohxI mhINvwl" dw soBw isMG duAwrw bnwieAw ieh ic`qr kdI pMjwbI bnyrw nhIN t`p sikAw["  klw dw koeI AMq nhIN hY nwly ijhVI cIz swhmxy hovy auhdI hI g~l kIqI jw skdI hY ho skdY Alwskw jW trks AYNf kyks AwielYNfz dy klwkwr bhuq hI mhwn hox pr jy auhnW vwry iksy lyKk nUM jwxkwrI nhIN hY qW ieh auhdw ksUr qW nhIN[ ieh ievyN vI kih skdy hW ik pRo. mohx isMG nUM mhwn kvI kihx vwly zrw puSikn nUM pVHn Pyr auh inrxw krn ik kOx mhwn hY ? ieh qMg idlI hY qy Awpxy igAwn dw hoSw muzwhrw[ Aqy ieh vI zrUrI nhIN ik pMjwb dy AiDAwpk dw igAwn lMfn dy AiDAwpk ijMnw hovy ijs kol ib~l dyx jogy pYsy vI nw hox qy qusIN ausqoN kMipaUtr dI Aws kroN[ myrw kihx dw mqlb ies Bwvnw nUM hor vDIAw qy auswrU SbdwvlI 'c vI iliKAw jw skdw sI[ pr qMgidlI swry pMjwbIAW 'c Gr kr geI hY[

dUjI audwhrx dy sbMD iv~c hrvIr isMG BMvr jI dw ieh ^q hY[ ijs leI auhnW nUM Awpxw bhuq swrw kImqI smW lwauxw ipAw hY[ mYN sMpwdk jI nUM bynqI zrUr krWgw ik ieho jhIAW qMgidlIAW jW FwhU rucIAW vwly p~qrW nUM Cwpx qoN hI Zuryz kIqw jwvy qW ik bhuq swrw kImqI smW auswrU soc pwsy lieAw jw sky[ vYsy au~pl swhb dI g~l dw 'TMFy pwxI 'c bYTy' buDIjIvI kI juvwb dyx jdoN, au~pl jI dy SbdW 'c, rwjnIqI Kyf hI bySrmI dI bx geI hY[ mYN cwhuMdW ik au~pl jIE qusIN ieh ^q swry AKbwrW nUM Byjo dyKo ikMny ku AKbwr iesnUM Cwpdy hn[ Aqy hr bu~DIjIvI Awpxw AKbwr k~FxoN qW irhw[

mYN qW ieh khWgw ik Bwrq dI AjokI rwjnIqI hr lyKk, AiDAwpk jW buDIjIvI dI puhuMc qoN ikqy bwhr hY[ iblkul bhwdr isMG dI audwhrx vWg ik ieh lok syvw nhIN ie~k vpwr hY - ibzns hY - ijs iv~c iksy ibzns plYn dI loV nhIN - do kroV lgwE qy pMjW swlW 'c ds kroV bxwE - ieh hY inSwnw A~j dy rwjnIqk AwgUAW dw nhIN qW huxy eI bwdl dy rwjkwl dy swlW nUM auhdI jwiedwd nwl qksIm krky dyK lE[ ie~Qy hI mYN BMvr jI nUM bynqI krWgw ik ikqy smW k~Fky pMdrW Agsq 1947 lYky sMn 2000 q~k dw sMKyp ieiqhws ilKx Bwv ik pMjwb dy pihly mu~K mMqrI kOx sn gopI cMd Bwrgv ik BIm sYn s~cr, qy auh ikvyN bxy ? kYroN swhb kdoN Awey isAwsq iv~c [ mYN cwhuMdW bwdl dy rwjkwl dy muF~ly swlW dI DMudlI Xwd QoVHI ilSky[ Swied mYN nw Bu~ldw hovW ik nkslbwVI lihr dOrwn JUTy puls mukwbilAW dw jnm srdwr bwdl dy rwjkwl qoN hI SurU hoieAw sI[ bwkI qusIN cwhl swhb dy kihx vWg in~kIAW g~lW dy smW brbwd nw kro [

AYfvokyt iF~loN swhb jI quhwfw bhurMgw supnmeI klMfr bhuq hI cMgw hY pr dyKIey iesnUM ikhVI pRY~s CwpdI hY ? jy Cp vI igAw dyKIey ikhVy dosq KRIddy hn ……qy ikhVIAW kMDW iesnUM pnwh idMdIAW hn …..?

fw. guimMdr is~DU jI dI kivqw inhwieq hI cMgI sI[ dlbIr jI dy lyK cMgy sn ^ws krky ivdySI iqEhwrW dI dOV qy 'vwirs Swh nw AwdqW jWdIAW ny' ijsdI qwzw imswl ieh Fu~fIikEN AwieAw rwjy dw s~jrw p~qr hY[ mYN vI ieho ikhw sI ik nw ivswro ies mW dI im~TI bolI nUM … pr vwirs dy murId kdoN smJdy qy ZOldy hn qyrI myrI g~l nUM qy B~jky pYNdy hn mwstrW dI ku~t qoN fridAW is~KI 'bH~FI ey bI sI' nUM[ r~b ^Yr eI kry [

suirMdr mwhl

virMdr jsvwl huiSAwrpur, nwrvy

20/02/04

Dear Editor,

Why don`t these politicians do something with regard to real problems the people of Panjab are facing. Some of these major problems are:

ROAD ACCIDENTS: Hundreds of people are being killed in road accidents on the roads  Panjab. A simple thing like installing reflectors on all vehicles alone could  save many lives. Secondly checking of vehicles for technical as well as   electrical faults could save even more lives. Thirdly making a system which   requires both theory and practical test of driving before issuing a driving   licence will save even a lot other lives. The driving on these roads is a real danger. I have witnessed a couple of such accidents where I lost  some of my best known people.

DRINKING WATER: Drinking water in Panjab is becoming a health hazard in these days. Water level is going further down. Only a deep bored pump is the solution   which costs around 50,000 rupees and no one with normal income can  afford such a pump. Toilets are getting popular in villages too. But in many  cases the drainage is the main problem. They just make a big hole and let  it be the severage which contaminate the drining water.

CREMATION GROUND: In many villages the cremation ground is located not so far away from the residential areas which is another health hazard. If somebody   raises the voice the corrupt officials do nothing with support from the   opponents.

There are many other issues which can be named but I do seek some efforts from our politicians to do something about these problems rather than fighting eachother on the basis of religion or parties.

Hope to have some support from my other panjabi friends.

Varinder Jaswal
Hoshiarpur/ Norway

rwjw FufIky

20/02/04

SAT SRI AKAL TO ALL THE READERS AND WRITERS !
I REALLY LIKE AND APPRECIATE YOUR BRILLIANT THOUGHTS.EVERYONE HAS HIS/HER OWN IDENTIFICATION, DHANNA SINGH ''CANADA''--LAHORA SINGH ''CALIFORNIA''--GURDITTA SINGH ''AUSTRALIA''--
THAMMAN SINGH ''SINGAPORE''---MOGA SINGH''NORWAY''......................................
AND ONE ''PUNJABI'' WRITES HIS LAST NAME IN HIS LETTERS ''GERMAN'' .....THAT COUNTRY NAMES ''GERMANY''
AND MY QUESTION IS ''DO WE REALLY NEED THESE CHEAP FAMILY NAMES??''
REGARDS
RAJA DHUDIKE

sMqoK isMG, AwstRylIAw

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19/02/04

vwh! kYsI sohxI qsvIr iKcI hY s. bIirMdr isMG iFloN horW ny!! mY vI auhnW idnW ivc “pMjwb swrw jINdw gurW dy nwm qy” dI DrqI qy hI ivcrdw sW qy bwkI swry hwxIAW vWg eysy qrHW hI soicAw krdw sW[

sMqoK isMG, AwstRylIAw

sqnwm isMG cwhl, kYlyPOrnIAw

19/02/04

ipAwry BMvr jI, siq isrI Akwl[

mYnM pMjwbI tweIp nhIN krnI AwauNdI[ quhwfw Kq piVAw qW koiSS krky ilK irhw hW[ quhwfy vrgy p`qrkwr nuM hr iek pwTk dy pRqIkrm vjoN sp`StIkrx dyx dI loV nhI hY[ drAsl pwTkW dw vI ksUr nhIN hY[ bhuq klmwN Aj kl ivkwaU hn[ ies leI kdI kdI pwTk swirAW nUM hI ieko r`sy nwl bMn idMdy hn[ quhwfI klm qy swnUM mwx hY jI[

sqnwm isMG cwhl , kYlyPOrnIAW

hrbIr isMG BMvr, luiDAwxw

18/02/04

sMpwdk jI,

iksy lyKk jW p`qrkwr leI ieh zrUrI nhIN ik auh ApxI ilKq leI pwTkW vloN auTwey hr ikMqU pRMqU dw jvwb dyvy[ iksy vI ivSy 'qy swry pwTk sihmq ho hI nhIN skdy[ Awzwdwnw ivcwrW dw hoxw sUJvwn pwTkW dI inSwnI hY[

bhwdr isMG aupl smyq hr pwTk nUM aunHW dy ivcwr mubwrk[ sRI aupl jMm jMm rwmUvwlIAw dI vkwlq krn, coxW ivc aunHW leI knvYisMg krn, aunHW dw pUrw AiDkwr hY[

sRI aupl ny Apxy p`qrW ivc vwr vwr ikhw hY ik buDIjIvI qy p`qrkwr TMfy pwxI ivc bYT gey hn, auh kWgrs jW AkwlIAW nMU hI auBwr rhy hn[ qIjy morcy dI sQwpxw leI kuJ nhIN kr rhy[ aupl swihb dy ienHW Sbdw 'qy mYnUM s^q ieqrwz hY[ Aj dy bhuqy p`qrjwr bVy hI inrp`K, in`fr qy bybwk hn[ auh iksy dI vI ilhwz nhIN krdy[ TIk hY ik hr BweIcwry, hr smwj, hr pySy ivc kuJ kwlIAW ByfW huMdIAW hn[ dUr nw jwx, luiDAwxw ivKy hI keI p`qrkwr bVy hI hoinhwr, inrp`K qy in`fr hn ijnHw lok ih`qW vwly hr msly Aqy iksy iDr vloN iksy lwcwr nwl hoeI izAwdqI nUM bVI dlyrI nwl auTwieAw, auTw rhy hn[ Apxy bwry sRI aupl nUM ds idAW ik mYN ipCly lgpg 31-32 swlW qoN p`qrkwrI Kyqr ivc hW[ ieMfIAn AYkspRYs A^bwr qoN kYrIAr SurU kr ky Bwrq dIAW dono kOmI smwcwr eyjMsIAW XU.AYn.AweI qy pI.tI.AweI., AmrIkn smwcwr eyjMsI XunweIitf pRYs ieMtrnYSnl , bI.bI.sI.lMdn qy itRibaUn grup leI stw& rIport jW sInIAr stw& rIportr vjoN kMm kIqw hY[ myrI inXukqI dw bhuqw smW AMimRqsr irhw, pr DrmSwlw, pitAwlw qy iSmlw ivKy vI 3-4 swl qk kMm kIqw hY[ luiDAwxw ivKy ihMdI dy pRmUK AKbwr dYink jwgrn, jo lgpg 16 QwvW qoN C`pdw hY, dy ibaUro cI& vjoN kMMm kIqw hY[ mYN bVy hI mwx nwl dwAvw krdw hW ik koeI vI ivAkqI ieh AwK dyvy ik mYN kdI iksy qoN iek pYsw jW koeI hor lwB pRwpq kr ky koeI ^br lgweI jW rokI hY, qW p`qrkwrI C`f idAW gw[ Aiqvwd dy bhuq hI AOKy smyN, jdoN KwkVUAW qy sur`iKAW PorsW vloN Apxy h`k dIAW KbrW lgvwaux leI DMmkIAW imldIAW rihMdIAW sn, AMimRqsr kMm kIqw[ do vwrI KwVkU mwrn leI Awey, pr aunHW nUM iml nw sikAw[ dono vwrI gMnmYn lYxy pey[ puils muKI ky.pI.AYs.igl nwl keI vwrI JV`p hoeI sI[

ienHW ql^ qjribAW bwry "myrIAW ABul XwdW" pMjwbI dy A^bwrW qy iek vYbsweIt qy CpIAW hn[ mYN 6 ikqwbW dw lyKk vI hW ijnHW ivc iqMn pMjwb msly qy is`K rwjnIqI bwry hn[ pMjwbI XunIvristI ny mrhUm fw.hrbMs isMG ricq "iensweIklopIfIAw Aw& isi^zm" dI nvIN AYfIsn leI myry pwsoN "AprySn blU stwr", jo ivSv Br dy is`KW leI 20vIN ivc sB qoN v`fw duKwq hY, leI lgpg pMj hzwr sbdW (AMgryzI) ivc "AYNtrI" ilKvweI hY[ SRomxI kmytI nUM "is`KW dI imMnI-pwrlImYNt" dw nWA mYN idqw hY[ ivSv Br dy is`KW vloN ies vrHy iqMn SqwbdIAW mnweIAW jw rhIAW hn, SRomxI kmytI ny ieh SqwbdIAW mnwaux leI pRogrwmW dI ivauNqbMdI qy qwlmyl leI 5-mYNbrI sb-kmytI dw mYNbr nwmzd kr ky mYnUU mwx b^iSAw hY[

sRI aupl ny kWgrsIAW qy AkwlIAW nUM burw Blw ikhw hY[ donW pwrtIAW dw Apxw Apxw mhwn ieiqhws hY, donW pwrtIAW ivc jy kuJ mwVy lIfr hn, cMgy vI hn[ kWgrs ivc fw. mnmohn isMG, hrcrn isMG, AmirMdr isMG, AYc.AYs.hMspwl, gurcyq isMG Bulr, pRqwp isMG bwjvw, gurcrn isMG gwlb, aumrwE isMG vrgy Anyk sw& suQry Aks vwly lIfr hn, iesy qrW AkwlIAW ivc gurcrn isMG tOhVw, surjIq isMG brnwlw, suKdyv isMG FINfsw, kYptn kMvljIq isMG, blivMdr isMG BUMdV, mnjIq isMG klkqw vrgy Anyk lIfr hn[

jwpdw hY ik sRI aupl qy keI hor pwTkW ny myrw lyK pUry iDAwn nwl nhIN piVHAw[kSmIr ivc hoey 42 is`KW dy k`ql vwlI Gtxw qoN SRI rwmUvwlIAw dy isAwsI ikrdwr dw pqw lgdw hY[ Awpxy Awp nUM "sYkUlr" grdwn ky pihlW ies kqlyAwm dI inMdw ies leI nw kIqI ik isAwsI bwpU kwmryf hrikSn isMG surjIq qy kWgrsI dosq nwrwz ho jwx gy Aqy aunHW nUM "AkwlI" smJx gy[ jdoN swrIAW pwrtIAW dy pRmuK lIfrW ny ies kqlyAwm dI S^q Sbdw ivc inKyDI kr idqI qW rwmUvwlIAw ny vI kr idqI[ mYN smJdw hW ik inrdoS ivAkqIAW, ijnHW dw isAwsq nwl kuJ vI lYxw dyxw nhIN, BwvyN ihMdU, is`K, muslmwn, eIsweI koeI vI hox, dI h`iqAw dI zordwr SbdW ivc inMdw krnI cwhIdI hY[

mYN rwmUvwlIAw jI nUM ipCly 27-28 swlW ivc ijqnw ku nyiVauN ho ky vyiKAW hY, aunHW nUM AkwlIAW, kWgrsIAW qy dUjIAW pwrtIAW dy mOkwpRSq qy Kudgrz lIfrW vrgw hI smJdw hW[ AkwlI dl ny aunHw nUM pwrtI dI koeI ivSys syvw krn qoN ibnw hI pVHy ilKy qy nOjvwn hox kr ky do vwrI AYm.pI. bxwieAw, pwrtI ivc auc Ahudy idqy, pr jdoN pwrtI dw BivS hnyrw sI, auh tpUsI mwr ky kwmryf surjIq dI godI ivc jw bYTy[

rhI gl aunHw vloN prvwsI lwiVAW h`QoN sqweIAW DIAW BYxW dy mwmly cukx dI[ ienHW leI mwpy pUrI qrHW zumyvwr hn, vYsy vI aunHW 12-15 kys cuky hox gy, rwmUvwlIAw jI koeI vI kMm kr ky aus dw Kub FMforw ip`tdy hn, ienHW pIVq bIbIAW nUM pRYs swhmxy kr ky KUb pblIistI lYNdy hn[ swry p`qrkwrW nwl aunHW dI cMgI XwrI hY[ mwltw duKWq qoN bwAd A^bwrW qy tI.vI. cYnlW 'qy zordwr prcwr ho irhw hY ik eyjMtW dy jwl ivc Ps ky gYr-knUnI FMg nwl ivdyS nw jwE, jwxw hY qW kwnUnI FMg nwl hI jwE, jy koeI jwx buJ ky Kuh ivc Cwl mwrdw hY, aus dw koeI kI kry[ iPr vI rwmUvwlIAW jI dI ieh syvw SlwGwXog hY[

iek hor Gtxw pwTkW nwl sWJI krnI cwhUMdw hW[ rwmUvwlIAw jI jdoN kOmI Gt igxqI kimSn dy aup-cyArmYN sn qW biTMfy iksy smwgm qy Awey[ aunHW ApxI ^br dUrdrSn jwlMDr dy shwiek smwcwr sMpwdk blivMdr A`qrI nUM ilKvweI, pr aunHW "KbrW" ivc nw idqI[ rwmUvwlIAw jI ny kyNdrI mMqrI bxdy hI A~qrI dI bdlI krvw ky KufylweIn lgvw idqw[ sRI A`qrI AMimRqsr dy rihx vwly hn, izlw lok sMrrk A&sr ny mYnUM ikhw rwmUvwlIAw jI quhwfy dosq hn, bdlI rukvw idE, biTMfy vwlI Gtxw aunHW mYnUM nw dsI[ mYN rwmUvwlIAw jI nUM Pon kIqw, aunHW biTMfy vwlI Gtxw ds ky qy A`qrI nUM motI ijhI gwlH k`F ky mYnUM AwKx lgy, "aus ny jwx buJ ky myrI Kbr nhIN lgweI[ aus dI …. ivc bwdl boldY, mYN auh k`FxY["  mYN lwjvwb ho igAw[ kuJ idn ipCoN auh rozwnw AjIq dy muK sMpwdk s.brijMdr isMG hmdrd dI bytI dI SwdI dy mOky 'qy mYnUM jwlMDr iml pey qy iek pwsy iljw ky AwKx lgy, "jy qusIN kihMdy ho, qW mYN auh bdlI mnsUK krvw idMdw hW[" mYN ikhw ik A`qrI grIb bMdw hY, aus dI ZlqI muAwP kr idE, qy bdlI rukvw idE[ aunHW Ajyhw nhIN kIqw[ ies ipCoN jwlMDr dUrdrSn ny aunHW dI koeI vI ^br ims krn dI ihMmq nhIN kIqI[

auh liuDAwxw lok sBw sIt qoN cox lV rhy hn, sB qoN pihlW Apxw cox prcwr SurU kr idqw hY[ A^bwrW ivc AkwlI dl qy kWgrs dy sMBwvI aumIdvwrW dy jo nWA Aw rhy hn, auh bhuq hI kmzor hn, ies leI auh ieh sIt ij`q skdy hn[ ieh vI suixAw hY ik AMdrKwqy aunHW dw kWgrs nwl smJoqw ho igAw hY[ auh ieh sIt ij`q vI gey, aunHw ieh kw. surjIq dI JolI pw dyxI hY qy surjIq jI ny kWgrs dI JolI[ aunHW AYlwn kIqw sI ik lok BlweI pwrtI swrIAW 13 sItW 'qy cox lVy gI[ jy hux swrIAW sItW 'qy Apxy aumIdvwr KVy nhIN krdy, smJo AMdrKwqy kWgrs nwl smJOqw ho igAw hY[ ib`lI QYly qoN bwhr Awaux hI vwlI hY[

sRI aupl nUM khW gw ik mYN aunHw dy lwgy hI rihMdw hW, myry pws Aw jwx jW mYnUM bulw lYx, mYnUM knivMs kr dyx ik rwmUvwlIAw jI du`D-Doqy hn, mYN aunHW vWg ilKW gw[
-- hrbIr isMG BMvr,luiDAwxw

inrml isMG DONsI

18/02/04

inmrqw!

jykr mYN auh krWgw jo lok cwhuMdy hn q`d mYNnUM lokW dIAW id`qIAW AsIsW jrUr svrg 'c phuMcwA dyxgIAW

"mYN qW auhI krWgw jo mYN Kud krnw cwhuMdw hW jwvWgw vI au``Qy ij`Qy mYN Kud jwxw cwhuMdw hW"

inrml isMG DONsI

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

17/02/04

pMjwb 'c ASlIlqw
"ASlIlqw hmySw hI rhI hY"

s. inrml isMG jI dw pqr imqI 10/02/2004 dw piVAw, ijs ivc purwxy simAW dy myly dI qsvIr iKcx dI koiSS kIqI geI hY [ aus smyN dIAW ASlIl bolIAW nUM hux dy nMgyjvwd nwl qolxw kuJ AjIb ijhw lgdw hY [ hux qW Gr Gr ivc Aijhw tIvI ivc vyKx nUM imldw hY [

tI vI dw siv`c AwP hI , hux ies dw h`l rih igAw hY [ ies h`l nUM mYN Awpxy Gr ivc Ajmw ky vyiKAw hY [ Prk isrP ieMnw hY ik mYN "tI vI siv`c AwP " dI jgwh qy " tI vI bksy" ivc pw ky r`K idqw hY qy ryfIE dw iesqymwl SurU kr idqw hY [ ryfIE qy bIbIsI qoN KbrW sux leIAW jWdIAW hn, Awl ieMfIAw ryfIE qy ivivD BwrqI cYnlW qo gwxy sux leIdy hn Aqy lokl KbrW leI pMjwbI AKbwr pVH leIdw hY [ sIR hrmMdr swhb, AimMRqsr qoN svyry qy Swm gurbwxI srvx kr leIdI hY [ hor kI cwhIdw hY [ bicAW dy mn prcwvy leI kMipaUtr dy KyfW dw prbMD hY [ sIfI, fIvIfI dw iesqymwl kr ky coxvyN gIq qy iPlmW dyK leIdIAW hn [ pr tIvI qy sB kuC Ku`lw cldw hY jo ik bicAW dy AxBol mnW qy sdIvI Asr C`f jWdw hY [

loV hY Awpxy Awp qy kMtrol krn dI [ bjwr ivc qW bhuq kuJ Aw irhw hY [ pr ieh qW AsIN vyKxw hY ik AsIN kI lYxw hY qy kI Cfxw hY [

AwE Awpxy Awp, Awpxy b`icAW leI tI vI dI bImwrI qoN bcw krIey qy ivhly smyN ivc gurbwxI suxIey, pVIey qy ismrIey [ies qrW krn nwl swfw qy swirAw dw Blw ho skdw hY [

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq [

krnYl isMG

17/02/04

AwdrxIX fwktr kMdolw swihb,

myrI rcnw nUM Xog sQwn dyx leI bhuq DMnvwdI hW, jI[

www.5abi.com ivc AYs vyly, fwktr gurimMdr is`DU, myjr mWgt, (Swied) bldyv isMG (sVk nwmw) horW dIAW rcnwvW vyK ky quhwfI vYb sweIt 'qy kOx nhI AwSk ho jwvy gw?

mubwrkW!!

krnYl isMG

AmrjIq isMG Kosw

gubani-raag1_140.jpg (5374 bytes)11. rwgu jYqsrI

17/02/04

BweI swihb jIE
vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw vwihgurU jI kI Pqih]

ies Sbd muqwibk 'hir isau dyvY joir' vw ishrw 5.AwbI tIm nUM jWdw hY[pRmwqmw ieh audm iesy qrHW bxweI r`Ky, iehI idlI qmMnw hY[ vYb sweIt dy swry pRymIAW nUM iesdw lwhw lYxw cwhIdw hY[
AmrjIq isMG Kosw

iF`loN, nwrvy

17/02/04

hello kulwinder veer,
thanks that u agree with my views, really people of punjab must kick off wrong persons
.from

dhillon NORWAY

jiqMdr isMG, pRBjoq isMG Xu:ky

16/02/04

ipCly kuJ hPiqAW qoN blvMq isMG rwmUvlIAw dy h`k Aqy ivroD dw islslw c`l irhw hyY kuJ s`jx ies dy h`k iv`c p`qr ilK rhy hn Aqy kuj ivroD iv`c[

ie`Qy mYN kyvl ie`k hI nukqw auTwvWgw ik rwmUvwlIAW ivdySI lwiVAW h`QoN sqweIAW lVkIAW dw d`K vMfw irhw hY Aqy jyHlW iv`c eyjMtW dy DoKy nwl idn k`t rhy nOjvwnW bwry ibAwnbwjI ijAwdw pr kMm G`t kr irhw hY[

pihlI g`l ik ivdySW qoN jw ky pMjwb iv`c jo lok ivAwh krwauNdy hn ies dy ksUrbwr auh lok G`t pr lVkI vwly v`D hn[ pMjwb vwsI qW nwly ivdySI lwVy nUM AwpxIAW lVkIAW dy irsqy krn dy nwl nwl l`KW rupey vI ByNt kr rhy hn [ivdySW qoN jwx vwly pMjwb dIAW DIAW nUM koeI jbrdsqI qW nhIN ilAw rhy? ieh koeI kOmI kMm nhIN hY isrP isAWsI stMt hY lokW dy jjbwqW nUM BVkwaux dw ie`k swDn Aqy in`jI muPwd dI pUrqI[

dUsrw jo lok eyjMtW dy DoKy dy iSkwr hn auh AwpxI grIbI htw ky AmIrI hMFwaux dI KwhS nwl eyjMtW nUM AwxIAW jmInW q`k vyc ky pYsy dy rhy hn [ieh kMm auh bwdl, tOhVw, kYptn jW sR.mwn nUM pu`C ky nhIN krdy[ Agr koeI smUMdr iv`c Cwl mwrygw qW auhsdw fu`bxw suBwivk hY[ Swied rwmUvlIAw dy aupwSkW nUM ieh nhIN pqw ik iksy smyN auh AMimRqDwrI sI, kvISr sI Aqy AkwlI AwgU vI sI Aqy drbwr swihb qy hoey hmly vkq AwpxIAW p`gW k`CW iv`c dy ky Awqm srpx krn vwly lOgoNvwl dy nwl hI sI Aqy ausdy hI nwl hI h`Q KVy krn vwlw ienswn hY[ auhI mrjIvVw Poj iv`c Swml sI ijs ny drbwr swihb dI rwKI leI AwpxIAW jwnW vwrn dw pRx kIqw sI[

SuAwd qW Pyr sI ik Agr iehI rwmUvlIAw au`Qy phMcdww ij`QY isKW dy kOmI msilAW dI g`l ho rhI hY, msln PrWs iv`c jW ij`Qy kOm dy juJwrU jyhlW iv`c bMd hn kOm dI Kwqr[qW AsI vI smJdy ik rwmUvwlIAw kOm dI syvw kr irhw hY[

jiqMdr isMG,pRBjoq isMG Xu,ky

bhfdur isMG AuWpl, luiDafxf

16/02/04

bhfdur isMG AuWpl, luiDafxf, pMjfb, ieMzIaf

pMj-afbI dy pfTkF nUM jo ik Kfs qOr Auqy Bfrq qoN bfhrly dysLF ivc rihMdy hn AuhnF nUM ieh dsxf chuMdf hF ik hux pfrlImYNt dIaF coxF df rOlf sLurU ho igaf hY. sfzy vrgy lokF df ieh ivcfr hY ik kuJ igxqI dy lok hI hn jo lokrfj Auqy mfPIey jF gRoh bx ky Cf gey hn. ieh lok Auh hn ik ijnfH df nf qF koeI dIn hY aqy nf hI iemfn hY aqy nf koeI PlsPf hY aqy nf hI koeI asUl hY. ieh lok qF bs hr qrIkf vrq ky aYm[ pI[ bxnf chuMdy hn aqy aYm[ pI[ vI isrPL pYsf kmfAux leI bxnf chuMdy hn ikAuNik aYm[ pI[ bx ky hI Gply kIqy jf skdy hn, aYm[ pI[ bx ky hI pRfprtIaF AuWqy kbjLy kIqy jf skdy hn, aqy irsLvqF KfDIaF jf skdIaF hn, aqy hor hr qrIkf vriqaf jf skdf hY ijvyN ik nOkrIaF vycxIaF jF vjLIrF dI dlflI krnI afidk. ieh vI hY ik aYm pI bx ky pusl nfl vI gFZf sFZf sOKF ho jFdf hY ijQoN ik cMgI mfieaf bxdI hY. ijs ZMg nfl BMn qoV aqy joV qoV lIzrF dy ho rhy hn Auh iehI sfbq krdf hY ik koeI iemfndfrI nhIN. lokF nUM AuWlU bxfAux dy hI qrIky hn. ijvyN ik bI[ aYs[ pI[ vfly hux iewk ho gey. tOhrf dyKo ikMnf icr bfdl nUM gdfr aqy pMQ df doKI kihMdf irhf pr aKIr bfdl dy hI gux gfAux lg ipaf ikAuNik sLRomxI kmytI dI pRDfngI cfhIdI sI. hux pRDfngI lY ky afpxy sfQIaF nUM hI Cwz igaf. cMdUmfjry nUM itkt hI nhIN lYx idqf. cMdUlfjrf kuVHdf iPrdf hY pr Aus df bxnf kuJ nhIN. itkt kMvljIq isMG kYptn lY igaf. bfdl ny tOhry dy sfry sfQI hI Kuzylfien kr idqy hn. luiDafxy qoN mhysLieMdr isMG gryvfl itkt lYx nUM iPrdf sI pr musLkl hY.

kFgrs kdy mulfXm isMG vl dyKdI hY kdy bI aYs pI vl. surjIq bfby dI vfh nhIN cldI. Aus df hux qk df ikrdfr bs joV qoV krn vflf hI hY. keI lok qF ies bfby nUM hux isafsI bcolf hI kihx lg pey hn. eyDr pMjfb ivc surjIq df DVf Kur igaf hY. pfslf kfPI bMdy BMn igaf. sjI kimAUinst pfrtI kFgrs dIaF imMnqF krdI iPrdI hY, pr Auh lq nhIN lfAuNdy. biTMzf sIt mMgdy hn pr imldI idsdI nhIN. eyhnF dy do aYm aYl ey ijqy sn pr Auh kFgrs ivc rl gey. hux biTMzy qoN sIt Bfldy hn pr agr kFgrs nf vI dyvy qF ikhVf gwzf zwk lYxgy. KbIaF pfrtIaF jo ik afpxy afp nUM agfhvDU khfAuNdIaF hn pr sB qoN vD aOKIaF hn blvMq rfmUMvflIey Auqy ik ieh smJdIaF hn ik kl jMm ky sfzy nfloN agfVI lMG igaf. rfmUvflIaf ieklf hI zt igaf hY ikAuNik hux qIk dohF pfrtIaF nUM hI lutyrIaF kihMdf irhf hY. kFgrs nfl smJOqf krn nUM iPrdf sI pr kFgrs ny nyVy nhIN lgx idqf. kr lYNdf cMgf sI pr suBf df ijdIaf hY. jwtF vflI mwq nUM iqafg nhIN sikaf. ijQy hor lok joV qoV kr rhy hn, ies nUM vI cfhIdf sI ik iksy iek nfl rl ky Gto Gt iek sIt hI lY lYNdf. Aus nUM ieh pqf nhI ik ieklI iemfndfrI nUM pMjfb ivc kOx puCdf hY. tOhrf cfr sfl bfdl nUM kosI igaf qy bfdl tOhry nUM, pr muV ky iekTy ho gey, kI ivgfV ilaf lokF ny dohF df? pr rfmUvflIaf eyQy sLfied glqI Kf igaf ik iksy nfl joV qoV nhIN kIqf. dyKo kI bxy. pr afm lok kihMdy hn ik ieho ijhf bMdf pfrlImYNt ivc jrUr cfhIdf hY. luiDafxy dy ipMzF ivc Aus df hY rsUK cMgf. cMgf qF AuNJ sfry pMjfb ivc hI hY. Aus dI bdysLI lfiVaF dIaF TgIaF vflI gl bhuq crcf vflI ho geI pr Aus ny trkF vfilaF tYNpUaF tYksI vfilaF leI qkVI lVfeI lVI qy nfl hI doDIaF df vI cMgf pK pUiraf. ipMzF ivc Ausdf cMgf aDfr hY. Gto Gt mfrksvfdIaF nfloN qy mfn dl nfloN qkVf hY. kuJ nf kuJ krdf hI rihMdf hY. bfkI pfrtIaF qF cup kIqIaF bYTIaF hn.

ismrnjIq isMG mfn pihlF qF bfdl dy qrly krn zih ipaf sI ik afE pMQk eykqf kr leIey. pr lok puCdy hn ik eyzy kurpt bfdl nUM mfn sfihb pihlF qF irsLvqKor kihMdy rhy pr jdoN sMgrUr dI sIt KusdI idsI qF bfdl nUM vI pMQ kihx lg pey. bfdl dy dl ivc tOhrf vI hY. qoqf isMG vI hY, jgdIsL isMG grcf vI hY ijs dI msLhUrI jy dyKxI hY qF luiDafxy af ky puCo ik jfiedfdF lokF dIaF Auqy aqy plftF Auqy kbjyL krn ivc iks dI JMzI hY. qF bfdl dy nfl nfl mfn sfihb eyhnF sfiraF nUM vI pMQk mMnx lg pey jdoN ik hux qk iehI kihMdy afey sn ik bfdl ny pMQk mirXfdf BMn idqI jF ik akfl qKq dI durvrqoN kIqI. pr mfn sfihb dI mOkfpRsqI Aus vkq sfhmxy af geI jd Auh bfdl nUM apIlF krn lg pey ik pMQk eykqf kro ikAuNik sMgrUr dI sIt afpxy leI lYxI sI.

ies leI dUr vsdy pMjfbI vIro, ies gl nUM smJo ik isafsq hux sB sLrm Auqfr ky bysLrmI dI Kyz bx geI hY. ieQy mOkfpRsq lok hn ijnHF df koeI asUl nhIN. iehI kfrn hY ik sfzy buDIjIvI vI TMzy pfxI ivc bYT gey hn. ies sfrI byasUlI Kyz ivc buDIjIvI qy pqrkfr jF qF akflI dl nfl hn jF kFgrs nfl. qIjI iDr dI koeI gl hI nhIN krdf. pr jy dyKIey qF pMjfb df Blf hoxf hI Aus vyly hY jdoN koeI ajyhI pfrtI qfkq ivc afeI ijhVI nf qF itktF lYx leI kroVF dI irsLvq pfrtI pRDfn nUM adf kry, nf votF mul lYx leI kroVF Krcy, nf nsLy vrqfvy. ieh sfrf kuJ nf akflI krngy nf hI kFgrsI. akflIaF ny bfdl dy hk ivc mujfhry kr kr ky ies gl Auqy mohr lf idqI hY ik kurpt hox dy bfvjUd vI bfdl hI sfzf lIzr hY. ies leI agr akflI muV ky pMjfb ivc af gey qF kurpsLn kurpsLn hI hovygI.

ies sB byasUlypx nUM dyK ky sfzy vrgy aMdro aMdr iKJI jfx qoN ibnf kuJ nhIN kr skdy.
bhfdur isMG AuWpl, luiDafxf, pMjfb ieMzIaf

kulivMdr isMG srW

16/02/04

DEAR VEER DHILLON

U R 100% RIGHT. THIS IS NOT GOOD. SOME OF OUR POLITICIANS ARE PREPARING AGAIN ATMOSPHERE LIKE 1984_1997 IN PUNJAB FOR ELECTIONS. THIS IS WRONG FOR THEM BUT VOTERS CAN THINK WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. NOW THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO KICK THE DANGEROUS POLITICIANS.

KULWINDER SINGH SRAN
COMPUTER ENGINEER
INDIAN ARMY

dlIp isMG itvwxw

16/02/04

ipAwry pwTkw nMU ipAwr BrI siq sRI Akwl ,

Awp jI dy Kq 5AwbI au`qy pVny nMU imldy hn vIr bhwdr isMG jI dw bYljIAm vwly hrijMdr isMG vIr v`l iLKxw ik Awpw AikRqGx nw bxIey[ AslI AikRqGx qW auh lok hn ijhnW ny pMjWb, pMjwbI, is`K kOm nMU DoKw id`qw[ auh suxo ikvy ? j`g jwxdw hY ky iBRSt AkwlI Aqy lwlcI ienswnw ny kOm dw nukswn kIqw[ rwmUvwlIAw quhwfw chyqw lIfr vI AkwlI lIfriSp dI mUhrlI ikqwr iv`c sI[ ieh s`c hY ik AkwlIAw ny kOm dI ip`T lvwauox iv`c koeI ksr nhI C`fI[ pr jo hjWrW dI igxqI iv`c pMjwb dIAw mWvw dy hIirAw vrgy mnmohxy pu`qr koh koh ky iSkwrIAw vwgU iSkwr kr kr ky pMjWb iv`c mwry gey auhnW leI blvMq rwmUvwlIAw vI auqnw hI juMmyvwr hY ijqnw bwkI AkwlI Aqy kwgrs, bI jy pI Awid juMmyvwr hn[

sR mwn qw hwly vI auhnW pirvwrw nwl hmdrdI r`Kdw hY[ quhwfy blvMq rwmUvwlIAy ny qW rsqw hI lok vsyvy dw cux ilAw hY[ auh qW aunHW aujVy pirvwrw nwlo nwqw hI qOV cuikAw hY ijhnW nMU Kud bldI A`g iv`c DkyilAw sI[ AKy jI lok BlweI pwrtI hY[ auey AklmMdo jrw soco hjwrw pirvwrw dy Gr vYx puAw ky kyhVI lok syvw dIAw g`lw krdy ho[ ksUr ijMnw bdySI lwiVAw dw hY auqnw hI mW-bwp Aqy sky sbMDIAw  dw hY jo ibnw socy smJy ivAwh leI qrlo m`CI hudy ny[ ivAwh krn l`igAw qW kihMdy ny ky ikqy pqw nw l`g jwvy iksy nMU ikqy koeI s`cI g`l d`s igAw qW  swfw knyfw jwxw iv`cy hI nw rih jwvy[ bwAd iv`c qW Awpw muMfy vwilAw qy doS lw hI dyxw hY ky swfy nwl DoKw kIqw hY[ ivAwh soc smJ ky krny cwhIdy hn[ quhwfy chyqy pihlw is`K lIfr sI hux smwj syvk audo vI SrwbI hux vI SrwbI[ ijhVw vI Awpxy Awp nMU SrwbI is`K lIfr AKvwaudw hY auh AslI AikRqGx hY[
bwkI iPr shI[ Bu`lw cu`kw dI iKmw[
dlIp isMG itvwxw

inrml isMG DOsIN

15/02/04

isrjnw qNo pihlW igAwn dw hoxw bhuq jrUrI hY pr isrjnw qW igAwn nUM Bu``lwA ky hI huMdI hY!

coxW dy pRcwr dI Brmwr hY pMjwbI cYnlw qy ASlIlqw ny swrIAw purwxIAw h`dW t`p leIAW hn srIrk pRdrSn (ASlIlqw) qW swnUM sihjy hI id`sdI hY ijhVI ASlIlqw Awm jIvx 'c twiem bMb vwgUM it`k it`k kr rhI hY[ aus v`l swfw iDAwn Ajy nhIN igAw hY[ Bwrq/pMjwb 'c AOrqW aupr v``D rhy purS AiqAwcwrW dIAW KbrW lUM kMfy KVy kr rhIAw hn grm iKAwlW dw vI bol bwlw hY mW-bolI mqryeI mW bx rhIN hY[ Bwrq/pMjwb dy Asmwn, DrqI aupr A`j Axhoxy b`dl/J`KV Cwey/Ju`l rhy hn g`l kI svrg Aqy nrk dI sWJI kMD vI Fih FyrI ho cu`kI hY[

BYVy mOsm vwlw idn Awjwieb GrW/Awrt gYlrIAW leI suhwxw huMdw hY[

mYN soicAw ik ikauN nw Ajyhy smyN mYN 5AwbI.kwm qy l`gy ic`qrkwrW dI pRdrSnI hI dyK lvW ie`Qy qW ku`J Tos Aqy qs`lI bKS imlygw hI inrwSw vwlw mUMh lY ky mYNnUM ieQo vI bwhr in`klnw pY irhw hY[ pMjwbI ic`qrklw dw sMkIrxpn ie`k hY dUjw mYN A`gy jw ky ilK irhW hW[

ies pRdrSnI nUM dyKx leI quhwnUM mu`K sPy qy aupr K`by pwsy klw/klwkwr nUM kil`k krnw pvygw Aqy iPr quhwnUM iehnW ic`qrkwrW dyy nWm imlxgy soBw isMG, divMdr isMG, jrnYl isMG Aqy myhr isMG[

ies pRdrSnI 'c l`gy ic`qr ie`k sp`St bolI boldy hn ijhnW dy aupr mYN ilKxw nhIN cwhuMdw ikauik iehnW ic`qrW dI Awlocnwqmk cIV PwV krnI bhuq muSkl hY iehnW ic`qrW nUM Drm dI sur``iKAw hY pr jo iKAwl myry mn 'c hrbIr isMG BMvr dy ilKy soBw isMG pRqI lyK pVH ky aupjy hn mYN auh quhwfy nwl sWJy krnw cwhuMdw hW[

ijs qrHW hrbIr isMG BMvr jI ilKdy hn ik,

"klw pRymI "sohxI-mhINvwl" dy Swhkwr kwrn auhnW nUM ie`k mhwn klwkwr smJdy hn ieh qsvIr bhuq hI pRis`D hoeI hY Aqy dyS bdyS iv`c ieh Awm pMjwbI GrW iv`c ivSyS krky klw pRymIAW dy Gr dyKI jw skdI hY klw-AlockW Anuswr ieh ie`ko qsvIr auhnW nUM kl-jgq iv`c mhwn klwkwr Amr r`Kx leI kwPI hY"

kI ieh pMjwbI rvwieq hI bx geI hY ik AsIN bhuq hI jldI ibnHw koeI imAwrI Koj kIiqAw hI iksy nUM mhwn, jgq pRis`D Aqy srvsRI bxw idMdy hW?

pihlW swnUM ieh l`Bxw peygw ik soBw isMG ie`k klwkwr hY vI?

klwkwr Aqy dsqkwr iv`c kI Prk hY?

ies sMdrB 'c ie`k Aihm svwl hY[ ieh klw-Alock kox hn (Alockw dy nWA) ijhVy kihMdy hn ik "sohxI mhINvwl" dw ie`ko ie`k ic`qr hI soBw isMG nUM kl-jgq iv`c mhwn klwkwr r`Kx leI kwPI hY ku`J pweydwr nhIN hY[

SoBw isMG dw twiem (1901-1986) hY[ ies smyN nUM kI jgq dy nwl imlwky dyiKAw hY? L`gdw nhI hY[ jd mYN soBw isMG dy ic`qr dyKy hn qd mYnMU l`gw hY ik soBw isMG nUM jo jgq 'c hoieAw hY dI koeI dUr nyVy dI vI Kbr nhIN hY ies pRqI aus dy ic`qr gvwh hn Awpxy smyN qoN mu`K moVnw ie`k isrjnhwr leI A`q Gwiqk huMdw hY ieh swnUM sihjy hI smJ Aw jweygw j`d AsIN swihq rcn l`gy Awjoky Aqy AqIq dI smJ qoN ibnW ilKWgy

qsvIr dy pRc`lq hox nUM hI iksy dy mhwn hox dI buinAwd AsIN nhIN bxw skdy pRcl`qw ku`J hor hY Aqy klw ku`J hor[

audwhrx vjo ie`k roNdy hoey b`cy dI qsvIr swrI dunIAW 'c pRcl`q hoeI sI/hY APrIkI, XUrpIAn, AmrIkn Aqy eySIAn GrIN l`gI ieh qsvIr Awm dyKI jWdI sI/hY g`l kI aus qsvIr ny dySw, jwqIAW Aqy DrmW idAw bMDnW nUM vI t`p ky lokW dy mnW nUM moihAw sI/hY pr klwqmk guxW Kuxo ieh ic`qr Aqy ic`qrkwr grIbVy hn/sn[

"sohxI mhINvwl" dw soBw isMG duAwrw bnwieAw ieh ic`qr kdI pMjwbI bnyrw nhIN t`p sikAw[ klwqmk gux ies 'c vI aus audwhrxI roNdy b`cy dy ic`qr vrgy hI hn[

pMjwbI BwSw 'c mhwnqw dI pRirBwSw kI hY?

Aqy lyKkW nUM mYN dono h`Q joV ky bynqI krdw hW ik iksy nUM mhwn, jgq pRis`D, srvsRI Aqy hor ku`J bnwaux qoN pihlW Awly duAwly AwpxI ingwh jrUr GuMmw lYx soBw isMG dy sMdrB 'c pihlw ie`k id`lI gyVw lwA lYxW cwhIdw sI jgq dw bwhd 'c[

ies qrHW ilKxw pVHn vwly dy mn 'c ie`k glq qsvIr pYdw krdw hY ies dy is`ty Gwqk inklxgy Aqy pMjwbI ic`qrklw sMkIrx hovygI[

mYN pMjwbIAq nUM v`DdI Pu``ldI Aqy bhu-rMgI dyKxI cwhuMdw hW[ j`d AsI s`c Aqy shI Alocnw krnI is`K lvWgy qW is`ty v`jo pMjwbIAq nUM P``l Awlw drjy dy l`gxgy[ iPr swnUM ieh kihx dI loV nhIN peygI ik ies zrKyj DrqI qy irg vyd ilKy gey sn[ smJx vwly Awpxy Awp jwx lYxgy[

pMjwbI boDk A`K A`j ik`Qy hY? mYNnUM ausdI A`j Bwl hY[

hor Fyr swry pRSn hn[ pr hwlIN auprokq ivcwrW qy ivcwr krnI mMgdw hW[

pRis`D dwrSink AYmwnUAyl kWq (1725-1804) dy qsvIrW dI suMdrqw dy sMdrB 'c ivcwry ivcwrW nUM vI gOh nwl dyKx smJx dI PrmwieS krdW hW[

AKIr iv`c nwrvIXn jgq pRis`D ic`qrkwr AYyfvwrf mUMk (1864-1944) dy khy SbdW nwl smwpq krdw hW[

" mYN auh ic`qr bnwvWgw ijhVy kYmry dI phuMc qoN bwhr hox"

inrml isMG DOsIN

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

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- fw: gurimMdr is`DU

15/02/04

s. ruipMdrpwl isMG jI dw imqI 10/02/04 pqr piVAw qy mn KuS hoieAw ik ieh vIr 'bwhr' bYTw hoieAw vI pMjwbI dI ieMnI syvw kr irhw hY qy AwpxI pqnI, b`icAW nUM vI pMjwbI bolx, ilKx qy pVx leI lgwqwr pyRrdw Aw irhw hY [ smW lgygw, pr imhnq rMg zrUr ilAwvygI [ b`icAW qy GrYlU mwhOl dw bhuq Asr huMdw hY [ AMgryjI pVxI qy bolxI mwVI gl nhIN hY pr Gr ivc pMjwbI nUM hI qrjIh dyxI cwhIdI hY qW ik Awaux vwlI pIVHI pMjwbI siBAwcwr nwl mnoN juVI rih sky [

ruipMdr pwl isMG nUM bynqI hY ik auh pMjwbI ivc hI pqr iliKAw kry, smW jrUr lgygw pr pMjwbI ivc ilKx dI jwc vI Aw jwvygI [

bwkI vIrW BYxW nUM vI bynqI hY ik auh vI pMjwbI ivc pqr-ivhwr krn dI Awdq pwaux [

qW hI fw: gurimMdr (kOr) is`DU dI ilKq " nW myry bciVE ........." dw mu`l pvygw [

rwj BUipMdr isMG, Bwrq

siqnwm isMG

sikh-france1_100.jpg (4874 bytes)PrWsIsI dosqo! AwE p`g v`t Brw bxIey!!
- rwjvIr isMG

15/02/04

vIr rwjbIr isMG jI dw iliKAw lyK kwbly qrIP hY, kwS PrWsI ies lyK nUM ivcwr skdy hox[

siqnwm isMG

ruipMdr isMG 'mogw', nwrvy

15/02/04

HELLO,

SOME OF OUR POLITICIANS ARE PREPARING AGAIN ATMOSPHERE (1984_1997)IN PUNJAB FOR ELECTIONS , I THINK IT IS DANGEROUS AND TOTALLY POISONOUS IDEA TO MIX RELIGION AND POLITICS TOGETHER, BUT OUR LEADERS ARE DOING AGAIN TO WIN SYMPATHY OF VOTERS FOR WINNING ELECTION.

THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE OF PUNJAB NOT EVEN FOR POLITICIAN, SO I REQUEST MY PUNJABI BROTHERS IN PUNJAB BE AWARE OF SUCH POLITICIANS.
FROM
RUPINDER DHILLON MOGA (NORWAY)

swQI luiDAwxvI, lMfn

14/02/04

I refer an article written by Mr H S Bhamber. I respect his views. But he has not said anything new in addition to mine which I expressed last month. However, I want to thank him to enlighten us about the history. I say this again.

Mr Ramuwalia should expand his vision. He got to look farther than brides’ issues. Even that issue is debatable. As I said in my last letter, there are some boys also who suffered at the hands of the girls from abroad.

If Loak Bhilai Party want to become the third alternative, Mr ramuwalia got to address more issues.

SATHI LUDHIANVI

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl, kYnyfw

gujrI
- fw: gurimMdr is`DU

13/02/04

AwpxI pRBwvSwlI nzm 'gujrI' dy AMq ivc 'dunIAw dy ieiqhws 'c auhdw kWf ilKwE!' AwK ky fw.gurimMdr is`DU ny mwqw gujrI jI vloN ienswnIAq dI AxK Aqy mwnv AiDkwrW leI AduqI dyx nUM ivSv-p`DrI qwrI^ ivc AMikq krvwaux dI shI vMgwr pweI hY[

gurimMdr jI ny gujrIAW ivcoN iek ivl`Kx qy kurbwnIAW BrpUr ikrdwr vwlI gujrI jI dw Aks AslIAq Aqy Swierwnw klpnw idRStI rwhIN iSdq nwl auBwirAw hY[

jdoN is`K ieiqhws nwl sMbMDq SqwbdIAW mnwaux dIAW iqAwrIAW ho rhIAW hn qW EhnW nwl juVIAW hoeIAW bIbIAW/mwqwvW dy vfmuly Xogdwn nUM vI snmwn BrpUr sQwn dyxw bxdw hY[ sgoN vrqmwn ivSwl mIfIAw phuMc qy shUlqW dI vrqoNN kr ky muK BwSwvW rwhIN is`K iesqRIAW dy jIvn Aqy GwlxW qoN sMswr nUM jwxUM krvwaux dw Prz inBwauxw cwhIdw hY[

pRo.pRIqm isMG gryvwl, kYnyfw

birMdr isMG

13/02/04

siq sRI Akwl,

smJ nhI Aw rhI ik ikQo SurU krw Awpxy iehnW vIrw nMU puCxw ik Awpw kdo q~k dUijAw nUM hI hr g~l vwsqy doS idMdy rhWgy, kI kdy AsI Awpxy AMdr JwqI mwr ky dyKI hY ik AsI AwpxI ijmyvwrI ikMnI ku inBweI hY isvwey ies dy ik hr g~l vwsqy dUjy doSI hn hux iBRStwcwr hI lY leIey qW ie~k svwl Awpxy ienW vIrw nUM puCxw cwhuMdw hW ik kI g~l hY ieh bImwrI swFy smwj nUM ingldI hI jw rhI hY Ajy ik hux AsI pVy-ilKy hox dw dwAvw vI krdy hW, ikau nhI AsI ies kohV qo Cutkwrw pwaux dI koiSS nhI kIqI, AsI hmySw ies dw ie~k ih~sw hI bxy, kI swfw koeI ksUr nhI, kI ieh lIfr Asmwn qo ifgdy hn, qy nwly ie~k g~l hor Awhw ijhnw dySw dI g~l krdy hW kI auQy isrP lIfr hI eImwndwr hn, lokW dw koeI rol nhI, qy auDr AsI lIfr cunx vyly isrP ieh dyKdy hW ik myrI ies nwl ikMnI ku jwx pihcwx hY qy jy myry bwhr bYTy vIr kih dyx ik ie~dw auh nhI krdy qW kI aunw dw koeI ieQy bYTw Byx-Brw vI ie~dw nhI krdw qW audo Swied swnUM pqw l~gygw ik AsI vI is~Dy XW AisDy qrIky nwl QoVy bhuq BweIvwl hW qW jy ie~dW hI dyKx lgIey qW ieh bImwrI swfI id~qI hoeI hY qy jdo hux ies dw syk swfy Awpxy v~l AwieAw qW AsI duhweI dyxI SurU kr id~qI ik Plwxw lu~t igAw[

qy hux dUjI g~l aunw vIrw kolo puCxI cwhuMdw hW ik aunw nUM iknw duK hY ik is~K Drm dy jQydwr ieh krdy hn, auh krdy hn, qW vIr jIEu kI AsI is~K hW, Awhw myry ie~k vIr nUM ikMnw duK hY ik 84 ivcly is~K dMigAw dw Aqy SIR drbwr swihb aupr hoey AtYk dw qy ieh hr is~K nUM hoxw vI cwhIdw pr A~j 19 swl bIqx qoN bwAd vI qusI Awpxy nwm ip~Cy isMG ilK~xw psMd nhI krdy kI g~l Srm qW nhI mihsUs krdy ikDry, Bul cuk vwsqy muAwPI qy nwly vIr jIau keI vwr mihsUs kIqw ik pu~Cw iehnw klmW vwilAw qo ik auh isrP il~K ky AwpxI ijMmyvwrI inBw gey, kI auh is~K nhI hn qy ikauN nhI AsI swirAw nUM gurbwxI dy nwl joVn dI koiSs krdy, hor qy hor kI swfI Awaux vwlI pI`HVI nUM 10 gurU swihbwn, 5 ipAwry Aqy 4 swihbzwdy qy mUl mMqR dw pwT Xwd hY[ Swied nhI[ AsI Awhw ie~k- dUjy qo A~gy inklx dI doV XW isrP mYN hI TIk hW, qoN kdO Cutkwrw pwvWgy,kdo AsI ies PokI haumY nUM C~fxw hY ikauN AsI AwpxI ividAw nwl ie~k dUjy dy nyVy Awaux dI bjwey dUr jw rhy hW,ikauN AsI myrw myrw C~f ky qyrw qyrw dy isDWq qy nhI qurn dI koiSS krdy ikau n AsI AwpxI ividAw nUM is~KI qy is~KI isDWqW dy pRcwr vwsqy vrqIey, Awau aus vwihgurU kolo is~KI mMgIey qy gurbwxI nwl juVIey qy vIr jIau ijs idn AwpW is~KI nwl ipAwr pw ilAw aus idn swfy jQydwr swihbwn vI AwpxI ijMmyvwrI cMgI qrW inBwauxgy. Aqy koiSS krIey ik sB qoN pihlw Awpw Awpxy AMdr dI haumY nUM ijqIey Aqy ies vwsqy aus Akwl purK vwihgurU kol Ardws krIey ,

Aqy AKIr iv~c ie~k iksy Swier dw iliKAw hoieAw

“jb qk n QI Apny gunwho kI ^br qo dyKqy Qy dunIAw ky Ayb-E-hunr
jb pVI Apny gunwho py nzr qo zhW my koeI burw n rhW”

Bul cuk vwsqy muAwPI, ikauN ik pMjwbI iv~c pihlI vwr ilK irhw hW, ilKx nUM qy bhuq kuJ hY pr Ajy kuJ tweIm vI lgygw tweIipMg, pr ie~k bynqI jrUr hY bwxI nwl juVIey qy hornw nUM vI joVIey qy bic~Aw nUM ieiqhws qoN jwxU krvweIey qy sB qoN pihlw is~K bxIey qy Awpxy nwm dy A~gy isMG jrUr ilKx dI Awdq pweIey qy bIbIAw kOr, vwihgurU BlI kry qy soJI dyvy gurbwxI nwl juVn dw audm b^Sy.

birMdr isMG

rjyS jlotw

13/02/04

Dear Mr. Editor,

For the last few weeks the issue of religious symbols have generated lots of discussion in France and all over world. Unfortunately our Sikh brethren are also going to suffer from this law in France. I personally believe that this is the peak time for all Punjabis and especially Sikhs to come forward and make people around the world aware of their philosophy and way of life. It is storage that French Govt. did not consult any Sikh body before implementing ban on Turban wearing. I think that we have failed to tell or advertise our heritage, culture and belife(s) among other parts of the world where we are living.

Now France has imposed ban on our Sikh brothers to wear turbans then may be some other country will follow the suit. Sikhs have suffered in US and other countries because of mistaken identity and some of our brothers got killed. Although the killers were caught and were punished but the point is why there is so much ignorance about Sikh religion among world masses. May be we have failed to spread awareness about ourself among our neighbours of different cultures/faiths about our identity. Our representatives as well as we ourself have failed to convey that wearing turban is mandatory for each Sikh who has not cut his hair, not only for religion point of view but first for our own hygiene and protection.

There are so many simple explanations to tell about own appearance which now we should make other faiths/cultures/governments aware of. This is essential for not all our Sikh brothers but for all Punjabis to stand for each other and help each other not only in making others aware of appearance of Sikhs but for all problems we face both at home and abroad.

For the last so many weeks there is again a flow of letters about discriminations of Sikhs in India, and I would say that at home also we have failed to spread the teaching of our great gurus out of Punjab or NW India. There is a strong need to start a campaign in India as well as abroad to make aware of masses about great Sikh traditions of brotherhood, patience, and victory of truth what our ten gurus have taught us and asked us spread these teachings in all directions. This become a moral duty for all of us to at least start a forum or discussion group through 5abi.com to address burning issues of Punjab, Punjabis and especially our Sikh brethren. May be we can launch a signature campaign protesting the ban on wearing turbans in France, which should be submitted to Government of France and other World bodies.

I remember Gurtej Singh from New Zealand has stressed the need to start discussion group(s) through 5abi.com to address various issues Punjabis are facing at home and abroad. This is the right time to work towards that direction. Since many eminent people are contributing articles to this website on international-, national-, regional-, social-, environmental- issues etc. I am sure that through mutual exchange of ideas and understanding, we can address most of the problems not only of our Sikh brothers, or NRIs but for Punjab and India as well. Later while following the process of exchanging views ( while respecting each others sentiments) we can find some leads towards some solution acceptable to all.

We should be confident that we can influence policies at home and abroad once we are united. Everyone should realise that in the last century Punjabis got united to launch GADAR LAHAR not only to project British unjust rule over India but to overthrow them from our homeland. Similarly now we can join hands to solve many problems both at home and abroad provided we develop respect for each others opinion and do not waste energy and time in unfruitful criticism of each other. As Sh. Harbir Singh Banwar has rightly mentioned in his letter to editor that we have to keep our heads cool and act wisely, by educating our younger generations ( if I am not wrong Shri Banwar is asking to educate not only Sikhs but to all Punjabis who has to create a better world for themself, while learning from the flaws of their elders).

Hope 5abi.com would take initiative to start signature campaign against the ban to wear Turban in France.
Kind regards!
Rajesh

fw: gurimMdr is`DU, muhwlI

12/02/04

siqkwrXog vIr sMpwdk swihb

Adb sihq siq sRI Awkwl!

s: gurjIq isMG jI ny myry lyK dI jo hOslw APzweI kIqI hY, ies leI auhnW dI byh`d Sukrguzwr hW Aqy auhnW swirAW dI vI ijhnW ny pihlW vI mYnUM eyfI muh`bq nwl invwijAw sI[ mYN kwPI idn pihlW Awp nUM ieh eI-myl ByjI sI[ pqw nhIN Awp nUM imlI nhIN ies leI ausy dI kwpI Bj rhI hW[ Aksr 5AwbI nUM pVH ky srSwr hoeIdw hY[ ieh ieMtrnYt mYgzIn swihiqk Bu`K vI iqRpq kr irhY qy ies dy nwl nwl dUr-duryfy bYTy lyKkW pwTkW nwl mulwkwqW vI krvw irhY[ imAwrI ilKqW dw cwnx vI ibKrw irhY..qy hor bhuq kuJ nvW nkor vI Dr irhY mnW dy suMny bnyirAW 'qy[

s`c qW ieh hY ik ies dI rMglI dunIAW iv`c dwiKl ho ky pqw hI nhIN l`gdw ik AsIN swry AYfI dUr dUr bYTy hW...ijvyN b`s ie`k Awpxw ijhw Gr hovy ijs dIAW kMDW 'qy nzmW, khwxIAW, lyK, qsvIrW vWg ltk rhy hox[ ijvyN AsIN swry dUr dUr bYTy hI ie`ko QW 'qy dIvwlI vI mnw rhy hoeIey nvW swl vI...hW s`c ip`Cy ijhy AwpW swirAW ny PqihgVH swihb dy ShIdW nUM SrDWjlI id`qI hY...mwqw gujrI jI leI AwpxI klm dy mu`KoN ikrI SrDWjlI dy iql-Pu`l 5AwbI dy swQIAW nwl sWJy krnw cwhuMdI hW [ aumId hY ivdvwn A`KW myry in`ky ijhy Xqn nUM prvwn krngIAW[ ....... swirAW nUM ie`k vwr iPr nvyN swl dIAW bhuq bhuq Su`BkwnwvW ByjdI hoeI

rwqW m`Qy cMn dw it`kw , Pu`lIN iKVy svyr

nvW vrHw in`q lY ky Awvy , KuSIAW BrI cMgyr

fw: gurimMdr is`DU

jsbIr isMG, AstRylIAw

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- rwjvIr isMG

12/02/04

ipAwry sMpwidk jI,

srdwr rwjbIr isMG dw lyK pV ky SwbwS dyx nUM jI kr AwieAw[ blhwry AwpdI jwxkwrI qy lyKxI qoN rwjbIr isMG jI, gurU hor vI Awp dI lyKxI nUM cMd lwvy[ ie`Qy mYN kuJ hor vwDw krnw cwhWgw[ myry ie`k im`qr srdwr AmndIp isMG ny kuJ swl hoey pYirs iv`c ie`k PrWsIsI AjwiebGr vyIKAw qy mihsUs kIqw ik pihly PrWsIsI lok vI nokdwr p`g bMndy sn jo is`KW nwl kwPI imldI hY[ ieh vI ik pihly is`K nokdwr p`g nhIN bMndy sn, ho skdw hY ik ieh iehnW qoN ie`Dr AweI hovy[ hor srdwr rwjbIr isMG Agr Awp nUM is`K POjIAW dy sMswr Xu`D bwry iksy ikqwb dI jwxkwrI hovy qW imhrbwnI krky 5abi.com qy Byj dyvo[ Awp dI imhrbwnI hovygI [

nwmDwrI bwbw rwm isMG jI bwry do lyK iLKy gey sn[ bwbw rwm isMG jI mhwn XoDy, qpsvI, gurU Gr nUM pRnoey hoey sn[ bwbw jI AwpxI imswl Awp sn[ bwbw jI Agr kwmXwb ho jWdy qW Bwrq ie`k v`KrI qrW dw dyS huMdw nwik A`j dI qrW 'skqy dw s`qIN vIhI s'O[ srdwr vrXwm isMG sMDU (Agr mYN BulyKw nw KwvW qW Awp Swied khwxI surKurU vwly vrXwm isMG ho, jo mYnUM bVI psMd AweI sI) ny ieh vI iLiKAw hY ik Swied ksUr nwmDwrIAW dw hovy[ nwmDwrI gurU Gr dIAW rvwieqW qoN dUr cly jw rhy hn[ ieh g`lW bwbw rwm isMG jI nUM gurU jW siqgurU kihx qoN v`KrIAW hn[ kuJ ku dw ijkr mYN kr irhw hW[

gurU nwnk swihb ny jwq-pwq nNUM mMnx vwly lokW nUM muUrK qy gvwr AwiKAw[ nwmDwrI A`j ivigAWn dy Xu`g iv`c vI cOQy pOVy vwilAW dIAW pMgqW Al`g lwauNdy hn[ bwbw rwm isMG jI ny bIbIAW dy iKlwP huMdy ivqkry dw jbrdsq ivroD kIqw sI pr A`j auhnW dy au`qrwAiDkwrI bIbIAW nUM ieh AiDkwr nhIN idMdy ik auh gurU grMQ swihb qy bYT ky pwT kr skx[ Ajy ienW hI iLK irhw hW[ bwkI iPr shI[ hW nwmDwrIAW dy kuJ cMgy gux vI ibAwn krI c`lW[ ieh iehnW dI KubI hY ik purwqn sMgIq iehnW ny ijauN dw iqauN sMBwl ky r`iKAw hY[ dUjw gurbwxI dI pVweI qy jor dyxw Awid Awid keI cMgy gux vI hn[ Aws hY nwmDwrIAW AwpxIAW is`KI dy pRqIkUl kwrvweIAW qy gOr krngy [ Bu`l cu`k mwP [

Awp dw SuBicMqk,
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